Quote:If your up set with the Corsairs decision and have IN GAME EVIDENCE then push them around on the diplomacy channel.
and the accusation of metagaming from Scornstar, who's desicion to keep the Order neutral I happen to see as metagaming, kind of pushed me to it.
Also, a lot of Zoners don't see the AW as zoners. Seb sees them as irritating war-mongers, for example. The Zoners tont 'have' the AW. The Zoners suffer the AW.
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The AW will hunt you.. but not at the beck and call of the Zoners..
The Outcasts may hunt you, because certain Outcasts rely on a certain route to make their Flax.
Black Squadron has their own agenda; but I assure you that they respect the game mechanics of the Order/Zoner friendship. Don't be surprised if they're not really thrilled with your Faction.
Jupiter Guild? Amusing. We have one or more JG offering their help to Zoners, yet we also have evidence of another being grouped with a Harvester. I trust them as far as I can throw them.
The Corsairs? Well, some of them are just being silly. Sorry.
So.. your point of having more to contend with than just Zoners is valid. However.. let's "talk" metagaming here.
How many times must you be told that the "Code" no longer exists before you get it through those planet-sized circuits.. Doesn't bode well for your computational powers, now, does it? That's metagaming.. your refusal to accept what is in essence the "truth".
So.. you don't know where Baffin is? Then why is the Scornstar Juggy still "cloaked" there? Metagaming.
A few to-remain-unnamed Junkers are obviously the Harvesters' "sword boys", yet scream neutrality when they are confronted with aiding and abetting a force hostile to Zoners. The want their cake and eat it to. Metagaming.
and the accusation of metagaming from Scornstar, who's desicion to keep the Order neutral I happen to see as metagaming, kind of pushed me to it.
Also, a lot of Zoners don't see the AW as zoners. Seb sees them as irritating war-mongers, for example. The Zoners tont 'have' the AW. The Zoners suffer the AW.
NO, dont feel accused. I asked you to ask your self. Your reply was flawless. Dont feel accuse and lets stay civil.:)
Since the ZOner coucil has enough beacons to know. Sconrstar was the first and a willing integration. He didn't get the mulch like the rest. Scornstar, was a member of the Order for quite some time. and in the time he was owned by the machine they had time enought to read his neural net 19561162562 times. They got the picture on thier nieghbor quickly and came to a conclusion of how to perceed.
We have not harvested a single Zoner NPC/Player while one of them player/NPC was in system.
Additionally, the Order is very busy and and at war with the Liberty Navy, Bouny hunters guild and Nomads. I think they would not be able to do much. We do ooRP landing there but not base there for obvious reasons.
The reason for the ooRP landings is this. Gammu is our homeworld and should not be denied. However because of a point the TAZ made about wanting us to be red to them the Zoners (and we agreed) we cannot land on Gammu, therefore we do ooRP "dock and goes" on Toledo. Since it has all that is available on Gammu.
But if we are approved, we already have the money to buy a system and bases and commodities worked out so we have to share nothing with no one who feels thier politics wil not allow it. I did however ask Igiss if we could buy one planet and he said "no we have to buy a system".
' Wrote:The AW will hunt you.. but not at the beck and call of the Zoners..
The Outcasts may hunt you, because certain Outcasts rely on a certain route to make their Flax.
Black Squadron has their own agenda; but I assure you that they respect the game mechanics of the Order/Zoner friendship. Don't be surprised if they're not really thrilled with your Faction.
Jupiter Guild? Amusing. We have one or more JG offering their help to Zoners, yet we also have evidence of another being grouped with a Harvester. I trust them as far as I can throw them.
The Corsairs? Well, some of them are just being silly. Sorry.
So.. your point of having more to contend with than just Zoners is valid. However.. let's "talk" metagaming here.
How many times must you be told that the "Code" no longer exists before you get it through those planet-sized circuits.. Doesn't bode well for your computational powers, now, does it? That's metagaming.. your refusal to accept what is in essence the "truth".
So.. you don't know where Baffin is? Then why is the Scornstar Juggy still "cloaked" there? Metagaming.
A few to-remain-unnamed Junkers are obviously the Harvesters' "sword boys", yet scream neutrality when they are confronted with aiding and abetting a force hostile to Zoners. The want their cake and eat it to. Metagaming.
Scornstar is no longer a Harvest progamm and was healed in the geode "unless the Fnords in their infanite kindness and neutrality threw him out. Also there is no Juggy in Bafflin. Scorn is in Bafflin as a IMG albatross and IMG IDed. You are ok with the IMG right? They do live in the Taus right there right? Just checking. Now I know Light foot was watching and reporting. My refulsal to accept is being in character. "I" know, but "the machine" is not convinced. I have different thoughts from the machine.
Also we do know where Bafflin is, I just use it as a plot device that the geode effects our sensors as respect to not bring war there too, unless you want it. If you want it we can adapt, but for now it "unexplainable" why we lose coherence.
I do not control or command the Junkers in any way. They speak for themselves.
Now lets not throw accusations here I have a feedback thread for that. Thanks folks I apprieciate the input.
Not my intention to flame or accuse anyone some of those were retoricle questions thats all.
Hey folk I'm going to ask all concerns not designed to make this a more coherent faction staus page to be moved to the feed back section. That way I can handle these in a more streamlined manner, and only once.
Thanks folks, not to be a snob if I think it belongs on the feedback Ill simply respon place concern on the feedback thread. I'll answer it there. I will answer every concern that has specific points. If you get forgotten feel free to hit me again, you deserve an answer.
' Wrote:Scornstar is no longer a Harvest progamm and was healed in the geode "unless the Fnords in their infanite kindness and neutrality threw him out. Also there is no Juggy in Bafflin. Scorn is in Bafflin as a IMG albatross and IMG IDed. You are ok with the IMG right? They do live in the Taus right there right? Just checking. Now I know Light foot was watching and reporting. My refulsal to accept is being in character. "I" know, but "the machine" is not convinced. I have different thoughts from the machine.
Also we do know where Bafflin is, I just use it as a plot device that the geode effects our sensors as respect to not bring war there too, unless you want it. If you want it we can adapt, but for now it "unexplainable" why we lose coherence.
I do not control or command the Junkers in any way. They speak for themselves.
Now lets not throw accusations here I have a feedback thread for that. Thanks folks I apprieciate the input.
Not my intention to flame or accuse anyone some of those were retoricle questions thats all.
True enough.. Apologies.
Your "boy" is still safe and sound in the Geode.. though rather uncommunicative of late.
My brain is fried from too much reading on the forums but I caught a "junker sword boys reference" there and just wanted to clarify regarding some Junkers:
Our currently unofficial faction does have an agreement with the Harvesters but we are not allies as in "What is thy bidding, my master?"
We made a deal (a Junkerish thing to do) when the Harvesters invited themselves to Junker bases to reclaim raw materials--what we do there for a living. When we told them to shove off, they threatened to treat us as hostiles so we negotiated.
They can hang around and collect junk with us and in return we won't shoot them and they will aid us if attacked by hostiles. In addition, if a pirate or hostile faction (to Junkers) engages a Harvester, we might jump in for combat training purposes. That's always our option...just as we might ask those docking for loot sometimes--hey, it happens.
Of course, as we are Junkers, if something else comes along that looks really profitable and advantageous....
But at present its a Rodney King deal, "Can't we all just get along."
I've added a paragraph to the top of the request to help clarrify some things. Hope this helps send questions and concerns about how to understand this faction request. I will try to answer the best I can. Politics and RP please send to the feedback thread. Thanks folks.
I believe that you have missed the point, ScornStar...
Many people RP as Zoners to avoid combat, because they enjoy peaceful RP, as Zoners are entitled to. What has been going on between the Harvesters and Zoners seems to be forcing people to PvP and stripping them of this right.
EDIT: I'm not talking about the TAZ, but the independent Zoners.
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