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Liberty Navy [LN] Feedback Thread
Offline Sarawr!?
07-23-2015, 02:41 AM,
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The post I made had nothing to do with faction diplomacy.

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Offline Tyria Regalia
07-23-2015, 02:43 AM,
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Where were you when the junker congress trial faux pas happened? I seem to recall that being a very similar argument that it's not realistic to bring a gun into a court room. And then there were serious inrp ramifications from that.
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Offline Commissar
07-23-2015, 02:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-23-2015, 03:13 AM by Commissar.)
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Re-read the post.

Baker's transmission was not, and is not, official navy policy. It's an indication of individual expression, and a result of someone roleplaying a character, rather than a cardboard cut out. There may be repercussions in-character for her actions, that's not for me to say, but it seems ludicrous to me to attack the player for actions conducted by the character.

If you've got a character that would disagree with Baker's actions, you're more than welcome to act on that disagreement in-character. Write a letter. Stage a demonstration, whatever floats your boat.

But, for the sake of common sense, let's restrict roleplay disagreements to in-roleplay interactions, rather than attack someone for the views their character holds.

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Offline Sarawr!?
07-23-2015, 02:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-23-2015, 02:46 AM by Sarawr!?.)
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@Tyria.Regalia

Making a communication (which broke no inRP laws of House Liberty BY THE WAY), and bringing a gun into a courtroom, are two entirely different things, and again, several times now I have stated that I am welcome to inRP repercussions for the statement that Rachel made in a public forum.

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Offline Tyria Regalia
07-23-2015, 02:46 AM,
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There's no written law in the laws of liberty about bringing a gun I to a courtroom.
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Offline Sarawr!?
07-23-2015, 02:47 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-23-2015, 02:50 AM by Sarawr!?.)
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Freedom of speech is a protected tenant of Libertonian culture. Bringing a gun into a courtroom is a felony.

Telling terrorists that they're wrong and that even though Liberty isn't perfect it's worth defending, is bad how? Stating that Corporations have too much power is bad how?

None of that even remotely compares to bringing a GUN into a courthouse and threatening law enforcement (THE LPI, NO LESS), with violence.

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Offline Techpriest
07-23-2015, 02:51 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-23-2015, 02:53 AM by Techpriest.)
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(07-23-2015, 02:47 AM)Sarawr!? Wrote: Stating that Corporations have too much power is bad how?
inb4 Baker is actually coalition sleeper agent.

So, what happened to 5th|, you guys merged?
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Offline Echo 7-7
07-23-2015, 02:53 AM,
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(07-23-2015, 02:46 AM)Tyria.Regalia Wrote: There's no written law in the laws of liberty about bringing a gun I to a courtroom.

It is classified under Section One, Subsection V: Obstructing the course of justice.
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Offline Pinko
07-23-2015, 02:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-23-2015, 02:54 AM by Pinko.)
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(07-23-2015, 02:46 AM)Tyria.Regalia Wrote: There's no written law in the laws of liberty about bringing a gun I to a courtroom.

Liberty law:

1.II. Piracy.

This is described as:

The disruption of a trade lane ring with intent to conduct acts of piracy.

Intent is shown by the accused party being present in the close vicinity of a trade lane ring when the disrupted party drops out of the lane.

Attempts at extortion, successful or not, for sums of money, equipment, cargo, or personnel in exchange for their immediate or future safety or that of their friends, family, or colleagues.

The most common instance of this is the well-known 2mrdai phenomenon, but this law extends to any unlawful demand made upon the innocent.

1.III. Assault.

The assault of any member of the Liberty forces for any reason is illegal, unless specific verbal exemption is given for a particular instance by a member of the high command structures of the Primary Fleets only.

The assault of any civilian for any reason, including the collection of bounties, is illegal. The only case that this is allowed is if that civilian has breached the law, and only if permitted by a representative of the Liberty forces.


1.IV. Non-violent crimes.

In addition to the most common crimes as outlined above, it is illegal to commit the following in Liberty:

Impersonating an officer.
This is defined as falsely claiming to be part of any branch of the Liberty forces and acting in a manner which would vindicate such a claim.

Fleeing from an officer when stopped.
This is defined as fleeing any officer when he or she is attempting to question you. If an officer stops you using a cruise disruptor, that is an expression of his or her will to stop you. Ignoring this is a crime.

Gross indecency in a public place.
This includes, but is not limited to, committing a massively inconsiderate act affecting those around you, such as being nude or semi-nude, participating or instigating an act of a sexual nature with or without consent and displaying sexually explicit material in the public domain.

Flying whilst intoxicated or under the influence.
This is defined as flying a ship whilst the pilot is being affected by the use of alcohol or narcotic substances, which impair his or her ability to fly the ship in a safe and respectable manner.

Causing, contributing to or participating in a public disturbance.
This is defined as encouraging or being a part of a public disturbance, which includes, but is not limited to, verbal or physical altercation between individuals, polluting the house of Liberty by dumping toxic waste into space and destroying property under ownership such as cargo depots.

Inciting violence.
This is defined as convincing or attempting to convince others around you to commit acts of violence against the any lawful entity within the house of Liberty.


1.V. Obstructing the course of justice.

Any individual preventing, evading or delaying the administration of punishment on to an individual found to be breaking the law will be subject to any punishment deemed necessary by the ranking officer on duty.



Emphasis mine
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Offline Sarawr!?
07-23-2015, 02:57 AM,
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(07-23-2015, 02:51 AM)Techpriest Wrote:
(07-23-2015, 02:47 AM)Sarawr!? Wrote: Stating that Corporations have too much power is bad how?
inb4 Baker is actually coalition sleeper agent.

So, what happened to 5th|, you guys merged?

They're still around I think, although they've hit an activity slump it seems. Also, well I was gonna say thanks for the positive note in all this mess but you edited your message...thanks anyway though Tongue

And hey, Baker IS pretty leftist politically! xDD (God no she's not a Coalition spy, just clarifying before SOMEBODY thinks I'm serious)

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