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Offline Impyness
05-12-2016, 03:56 AM,
#391
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I'm bringing up Gaiain Wildlife because from what I'm getting its c/s is about 325, which is above that of a normal commodity but below that of contraband combined with the fact that the infocard specifically mentions it is illegal in Bretonia. I think the error on one of our ends with this is that Gaian Wildlife takes up 4 cargo per unit, not 5 like most other large items.

And does the fact that to get to their destination in Okinawa the GMG would have to either pass through Kusari or Rheinland where Slaves are illegal matter at all? I mean they could go through Alaska as well, but that's again breaking the law. Just so I understand the precise logic for future note.

Also in the case of Blood Diamonds you mentioned both Interspace and GMG are able to dock at Hessian bases with 5ks. I get that this is mostly used as an example, I just felt the need to point it out.

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Offline Grumblesaur
05-12-2016, 04:02 AM,
#392
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You know, if the Omicrons are in such dire need of ambient activity, why not make ore fields for iridium in Delta or Kappa, since mining is an ambient activity?

A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.
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Offline Croft
05-12-2016, 12:30 PM,
#393
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After a bit of work this morning I believe I have eliminated all the previous A-B-A routes from my proposal, however it does require the use of OSC faction request available to us next month in order to complete Socialites, here is the revised change log.

Changes
VIP’s removed from Golden Dragon and Hawaii.
Vacationers removed from Denver, Malta, Stuttgart, Holstein, Houston, Pittsburgh, Los Angeles,, New Tokyo, New London and Cambridge.
Passengers_li to Denver removed
Passengers to Hamburg removed.
Passengers to Grand Vista removed.
Passsengers_br to Baden Baden removed.

VIP’s added to Denver
Passengers added to New London
Passengers_br added to New Tokyo
Socialites added to Manhattan
Tourists added to New Berlin

Passengers_rh connected to Manhattan
Passengers_ku connected to Curacao and Baden Baden
Passengers connected to the Mackinac and Denver
Tourists connected to Denver
Vacationers connected to Mackinac

[+]Revised Diagram
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If this is still unacceptable then I hope we can reach some form of compromise and would be happy to apply the same effort to Gallia.

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Offline Ayman
05-12-2016, 09:55 PM,
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there used to be an OC base in Omicron Eta that sells robotics hardware, now the system was removed with the new update and there is no single OC base that sells RH anymore. Can you please add it to any of the new bases for the Outcast or even planet Malta whatever you see fits for robotics would be fine

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Offline Xoria
05-13-2016, 02:59 AM,
#395
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(05-12-2016, 03:56 AM)Impyness Wrote: I'm bringing up Gaiain Wildlife because from what I'm getting its c/s is about 325, which is above that of a normal commodity but below that of contraband combined with the fact that the infocard specifically mentions it is illegal in Bretonia. I think the error on one of our ends with this is that Gaian Wildlife takes up 4 cargo per unit, not 5 like most other large items.

And does the fact that to get to their destination in Okinawa the GMG would have to either pass through Kusari or Rheinland where Slaves are illegal matter at all? I mean they could go through Alaska as well, but that's again breaking the law. Just so I understand the precise logic for future note.

Also in the case of Blood Diamonds you mentioned both Interspace and GMG are able to dock at Hessian bases with 5ks. I get that this is mostly used as an example, I just felt the need to point it out.
Gaian Wildlife is situated in the middle of a war zone and dangerous to access for Bretonian transports - that accounts for it's higher than average rate of return.
Passing through a House is not necessarily a critical factor. If it was a House with a highly active and effective law enforcement presence, then that would be a consideration.
As for BD again, 2 corps out of the whole game hardly warrants significant impact. Samura can dock on Crete and haul away 5000 artifacts bound for Manhattan, but most corps certainly can't. I can't only plan for the extreme cases, because that effectively nerfs the majority in the middle.

(05-12-2016, 12:30 PM)Croft Wrote: After a bit of work this morning I believe I have eliminated all the previous A-B-A routes from my proposal, however it does require the use of OSC faction request available to us next month in order to complete Socialites, here is the revised change log.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
You needn't bother. I'm working on a total restructuring that adds several more people to the network. It will take a few days and I'll post in a dedicated thread for it when I'm done.

(05-12-2016, 09:55 PM)Zak.Conner Wrote: there used to be an OC base in Omicron Eta that sells robotics hardware, now the system was removed with the new update and there is no single OC base that sells RH anymore. Can you please add it to any of the new bases for the Outcast or even planet Malta whatever you see fits for robotics would be fine
I'll add it to Galicia Research in O Beta. Thanks for the report.
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Offline Croft
05-13-2016, 09:12 AM,
#396
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Thanks Xoria, that's smashing news. If I or any of the OSC folks can be of assistance please let me know.

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Offline Lythrilux
05-14-2016, 03:03 PM,
#397
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It seems you're ignoring Erato's post which is quite frankly rude, but I guess it can't be helped because you're the one with all the power here and we members are nought but peons anyway. I really hoped the APM Commodites would do great for roleplay and economy enhancement, but I guess that dream won't come to fruition. I'll probably have to re-do the Hardware infocards to specify it a bit more.

Iridium is still a big problem though. And in fact I've noticed it's not even sold in Gallia anymore either. As Erato said: if for gameplay reasons FP11 has to sell it that's understandable. But now we Core (and Gallic factions too) can't access Iridium at all. Please add a duplicate buy point on Yaren, and also add the Gallic buy point back too. I'm not asking for it to be outright moved (even though that's more logical) because it seems that's not an option for you, but we really need a buy point of our own until Iridium mining is implemented. I.e [BG]'s POB (Invicta Research Complex) can't make Cloak Disruptors.

On another note, can Alabama sell MOX and can Durban sell Marines please? Laz tells me Alabama used to sell MOX but no longer does (which I imagine was part of you simplifying routes/buy points), the only place for us to buy it is on a Zoner base which we can't access anymore so this is impactful due to gameplay reasons.

Also can Durban sell Marines? Would be good for roleplay reasons.

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Offline Kaghuros
05-14-2016, 10:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-14-2016, 10:24 PM by Kaghuros.)
#398
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You could always pay other people to supply Iridium and MOX to your POB.
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Offline Sombs
05-14-2016, 10:29 PM,
#399
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(05-14-2016, 03:03 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: On another note, can Alabama sell MOX and can Durban sell Marines please? Laz tells me Alabama used to sell MOX but no longer does (which I imagine was part of you simplifying routes/buy points), the only place for us to buy it is on a Zoner base which we can't access anymore so this is impactful due to gameplay reasons.

Also can Durban sell Marines? Would be good for roleplay reasons.

Aren't that things we would have kept in mind before Core attacked the Zoners? xD




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Offline Lythrilux
05-14-2016, 10:38 PM,
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Well if I recall correctly Xoria adjusted the sell points for gameplay reasons, not roleplay reasons. Therefore the events of the past week have no context here. And Core asking others for Iridium would just be completely moronic in regards to their lore.

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