Remove thrusters from 5kers?

[Deep Space Engineering]

I have been a trader most of my time here but I've also done a lot of piracy. Storks and 5kers in general are so easy to pirate is not funny. Jayce is right if you can't catch a stork you are doing -something- very wrong. Hell a well armed VHF can beat a stork anyday. And about mounting CAUs, any pilot who actually gives half a damn about their profits wont mount armor.

sl;dr please keep thrusters thank

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[n00bl3t]

Why nerf them even more? They are sitting ducks already.

Surely its not the thrusters causing the issue but the armour in that scenario? Why not limit transports to HAU's only and leave the capital stuff to capitals?

But you only have two options when youre in a 5k already. Pay or die.

If 5ks are thrusting away from you, you're pirating in the wrong ship. Get a small transport.

+1

Pavel, what are you pirating in?

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[sasapinjic]

Armor limitation is one thing, thrusters making it easier to escape to closest dockable station is another.

Armor is not problem , nor the truster , BOMBER pirates are problem ! What choice transport has except dock to nearest station attempt ?
No trader will stay and fight against bomber , no mater what armor , shield , weapon or truster it has equipped , becouse it don't have 1 in 1000 chance of win !
So remove bomber pirating and allowe fighter pirating only ( or nerf bombers ) , and traders will stay and fight , isn't PEW better than pay , die or dock ?

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[Cælumaresh]

Armor limitation is one thing, thrusters making it easier to escape to closest dockable station is another.

Armor is not problem , nor the truster , BOMBER pirates are problem ! What choice transport has except dock to nearest station attempt ?
No trader will stay and fight against bomber , no mater what armor , shield , weapon or truster it has equipped , becouse it don't have 1 in 1000 chance of win !
So remove bomber pirating and allowe fighter pirating only ( or nerf bombers ) , and traders will stay and fight , isn't PEW better than pay , die or dock ?

I believe pavel just said a healthy dose of Pirate bias is necessary. This is just a recipe for killing pirate activity as a whole.
If you cant stand the heat of a bomber pirate, hire a gunboat freelancer or something, fly in a convoy.

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[Shiki]

CAU8 5kers are definitely not sitting ducks.

I've barely seen cau8 5kers in my life. I think if you got cau8 on your transport, then you are deserved to live anyway.

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[Jack_Henderson]

Once the Stork is remodelled to a suitably sized 5ker, it's a non-issue, imo.
The hull nerf on all 5kers already took care of most issues.

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[Epo]

The serious problem with Pirate - Trader interactions is that pirates are separated into cool pirates who demand REASONABLE monies and RP, and (bad word ) pirates who demand 50% of the profit. Maybe adding back sirius credit cards to NPC traders would be a good compromise as pirates would make money by killing NPCs when there are no players around. Nowdays being a pirate isn't really profitable and fact that some of them are (bad) discourages traders to interact with pirates as a whole

Just give 2mil sirius credit card for NPC transports and pirates will demand lower monies --> traders will want to speak with them

[Stoner_Steve]

Surely its not the thrusters causing the issue but the armour in that scenario? Why not limit transports to HAU's only and leave the capital stuff to capitals?

I agree with Croft on this one, most of my OSC fleet is outfitted with Cap 8 armor, 400 units of cargo is more than a worthy compromise that gives me the ability to make it to safety in just about any situation. Its not the Thruster that is letting me get away, its the battleship-like armor that I have.

[n00bl3t]

The serious problem with Pirate - Trader interactions is that pirates are separated into cool pirates who demand REASONABLE monies and RP, and (bad word ) pirates who demand 50% of the profit. Maybe adding back sirius credit cards to NPC traders would be a good compromise as pirates would make money by killing NPCs when there are no players around. Nowdays being a pirate isn't really profitable and fact that some of them are (bad) discourages traders to interact with pirates as a whole

Just give 2mil sirius credit card for NPC transports and pirates will demand lower monies --> traders will want to speak with them

Is there any good NPC cargo piracy spots in the mod now anyway for a Pirate Transport?