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oZoneRanger · 04-23-2017, 07:34 PM,

Next time you official [LN] guys invite someone to a group to do a mission you already have planned, it might be good to take a second to explain what the mission is and what the objectives are. Also, I don´t get the ALL CAPs group chat, maybe there is a reason behind it, maybe not. As it turned out, another cruiser was not needed at all. Sub par Role play for an official faction, and the insult at the end just put the icing on the cake. Cheers.

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Impyness · 04-23-2017, 07:37 PM,

Again though, why would any SCRA ship be allowed to sit anywhere in Liberty ZOI with even the slightest chance of surviving if it's going to fly around destroying literally every corporate it sees with no way for the corporate pilots to get out of it?

And yes it is powergaming to do boarding without permission, but the person involved had the option to go along with it and continued to just attempt to silently cruise away. They could have done any number of things such as giving in, bargaining, fighting back or "self destructing" the ship. Instead this was their response.

[23.04.2017 17:57:30] SCRA|CPW-Che.Guevara: // finish it

#Snakded

Tabris · 04-23-2017, 07:43 PM,

And there's the exact behaviour I am speaking of. It is that method of thinking that makes Liberty exactly what it is and why folks simply don't want to play with you unless they are of like-mindedness. I am not objecting to the destruction of the ship. I am objecting to how many folks were pulled into your insanity just to destroy a single ship. But I know I will never get anywhere with LSF as you already have it firmly in your minds that you've done nothing wrong and nothing I say will be able to change that.

By that time you had completely and utterly crushed their willingness to 'play along' with your rather lackluster 'Role-Play' and unfair spirit. You cannot expect a person to smile and nod as they are brutally crushed under your heel. But again I am banging my head against the wall so I will nolonger bother.

Good day. I will inform my folks to avoid Liberty from now on.

Shelco · 04-23-2017, 07:46 PM,

(04-23-2017, 07:23 PM)Impyness Wrote: Since I was at this fight as well, RP was attempted at the end after the ship had been completely stripped of all equipment. The person involved decided to simply cruise away repeatedly while we attempted a boarding style RP, something that could have proven very interesting. So the roleplay was there.

On your argument about getting a fair fight, I'd like to ask about these previous instances where SCRA has destroyed civilian ships without giving them any chance to actually talk their way out of it.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1881192
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1880082
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1882796
And especially all the ones blown up http://imgur.com/a/elMid here

It seems like a very bad idea to let ANY SCRA ship sit around liberty with even the slightest chance to survive or escape when you're destroying civilian ships with no way out for them.

Wait, you justify this gank by pointing at the non gank fights and kills I had? And please, spare me the "Oh, I wanted interesting boarding style RP" then engage that differently than with a 7 ship ganksquad, holy sh*t, do you really think I feel like RPing with you after getting missiles into the oblivion by you? How am I even supposed to take LSF seriously with your poor RP "UUUUUH A COMMIE, MUST SPREAD DIMUCRACI", wtf? Can you even tell me what you do as LSF that separates you from annoying 3 missile LN ships?

Impyness · 04-23-2017, 07:51 PM,

The Liberty Security Force (LSF) is the intelligence branch of the Liberty Armed Forces, operating in secrecy to ensure the free flow of goods and services in the Liberty economy.

The Liberty Security Force (LSF) is the intelligence branch of the Liberty Armed Forces, operating in secrecy to ensure the free flow of goods and services in the Liberty economy.

The Liberty Security Force (LSF) is the intelligence branch of the Liberty Armed Forces, operating in secrecy to ensure the free flow of goods and services in the Liberty economy.

As LSF capturing an SCRA warship ranks pretty high up on our list of things to accomplish due to the possible technology and information that could be obtained. Literally destroying all equipment on said ship is the best possible way to go about this. Furthermore as previously mentioned given your factions desire to destroy transports with no chance at all of them making their way through removing any SCRA from the ZOI is almost a top priority.

Shelco · 04-23-2017, 07:53 PM,

Mhm, and you are sure you don't just love ganking other ships? This is not the first time that happened, it happens very often and I always see you guys with your funny LABC's, a super planned operation with such a top priority would not be executed in such a childish and ridiculous manner.

Tabris · 04-23-2017, 07:54 PM,

Once again you only prove my point. It is now quite obvious you do not believe in fair-play. So I will not be indulging you any longer.

Good day Impy, enjoy the cesspool.

Apollon · 04-23-2017, 07:56 PM,

If you (SCRA and LSF) are going to start throwing rocks at each other then please do it in your respective feedback threads. [LN] HC has acknowledged the problem that occurred with the SCRA and will work on resolving it and preventing it from happening again.

If the SCRA has any further issues to represent, then please forward it here. Otherwise, take your quarrel with the LSF somewhere else.

Arbs · 04-23-2017, 09:28 PM,

One thing I do want to make clear is that this faction's intention was not to deliberately to give the most horrible death to whatever was there. In the DPS capacity of 4 cruisers that thing wouldve been torn in less that 10 seconds if anyone had any hate towards you. They even held their fire when the ship was "disarmed".

While yes Im not sure how justifiable it is, this was a hype of the moment hings where people are just logging in to have soke fun, even though some may not understand it. As you can see from the logs provided a few posts above.

That was just a slurr/hype of a moment and it will be solved internally, as those are not the values this faction proclaims.

Another thing to note here is that it looks like your claims are a bit strange here. "Kill everything with extreme prejudice, but dont accept it when people do it to us". Hence why I dont get why youre complain at the "OOH A COMMIE, GIVE THEM HELICOPTER RIDE" approach People may take towards you.

As far as this instance is concerned it was and LSF operation so you should sort it with them if anything. One of my members simply was there to assist, and weve already taken note of it in the HC.

@"oZonerRanger" I think youre either being a bit too cynical/grumpy or you probably misunderstood what happened. As I said its almost clear that people were just messing around in group chat, and an insult like that is more or less something between friends or fellow comrades. (see: army barracks). Sorry if it made you feel offended, but its just how the internet is. Sorry for that, ill make sure something like that doesnt happen again. And im not sure of what sort of sub par roleply are you talking about cause im only seeing group chat logs there which is -obviously- an oorp chat.

The Liberty Naval Warship Coordination Office, is what the title says it is. To promote coordination between indies and transmission of values to the indies in an attempt to improve the quality of the playerbase by being closer and easily reachable by them for any questions/concerns.

Thank you for your time in reading this and i hope your day gets better. <3

Let me know if you have any questions or so.

Hubjump · 04-30-2017, 03:04 PM,

http://imgur.com/a/yn06A

Was this really necessary?
2 labc
1 overlord
3 bombers
(i think it was)

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