' Wrote:What does your post do at this point? I'm looking around, what do I see? A lot of outcast clan members supporting their right to PvP whore indies for not kissing their backside. Is that a hole? No, it's just a bunch of outcast clan members supporting their right to PvP whore indies for not kissing their backside.
Your support of them is based on what? Which of the points brought up do you have an opinion on, and why?
Or are you just a cheerleader for the 101st?
If you are going to post, bring something to the topic, don't just be a cheerleader.
who is PVP whoring? not the 101st.
sense this whole thing started, only 1 person has been fired on by the 101st to my knowledge , and that was by me. it lasted for about 20 seconds before we opened up comms and came to an agreement. most of the issues are sorted out in the forums.
youre just pulling all these 'points' out of your arse.
you have no valid point of view on the matter, youre not i the 101st and you dont havent bought a destroyer from us yet, so untill one of those bridges are crossed, you have no understanding of the matter.
I really don't see all the fuss about this policy. The RM, KNF, BAF, even the Lane Hackers have policies regarding capital ship usage. The RM one is even more restrictive than this one, however I don't know about the Kusari/Bretonnia ones.
Simply put, if you can simply post on the forums/show a bit of roleplay about the purchase of your destroyer, you will be allowed. Said player is now introduced to the forums, so he can further extend his/her discovery experience.
The Battleship and Dreadnaught are more restricted, but if you can roleplay it + provide background for its production, good. You can fly it.
There are two main groups affected by the policy. Independents who roleplay, and those who don't. The ones who roleplay just have to spend a bit of their time for the registration. The ones who don't roleplay won't bother with the registering and would rather risk their character's life than spend a few minutes RP with a faction Outcast member (in the case of the Destroyer).
' Wrote:There are two main groups affected by the policy. Independents who roleplay, and those who don't. The ones who roleplay just have to spend a bit of their time for the registration. The ones who don't roleplay won't bother with the registering and would rather risk their character's life than spend a few minutes RP with a faction Outcast member (in the case of the Destroyer).
You hit the nail on the head. The people who RP are faced with an inconvieniance, and those that don't are PvP whored, but in both cases this policy does nothing to improve Rp.
Nothing save allow the 101st to try to use their numbers to push indies around.
This whole excercise is pointless other than the faction pushing around the indies.
The other thing I find sad is that I get support on PM's from people that don't post in the thread. What does that say about this clan/indie relationship that many indies don't feel free to express their opinions openly? That's the atmosphere that the clans foster.
Quote:who is PVP whoring? not the 101st.
sense this whole thing started, only 1 person has been fired on by the 101st to my knowledge , and that was by me. it lasted for about 20 seconds before we opened up comms and came to an agreement. most of the issues are sorted out in the forums.
did you even read this part?
or are you just ignoring whatever trumps your argument.
and riddle me this.
why should someone who doesnt RP be tolerated by other players in an RP Server, much less if that person is in a capship
Of course I did, but you do realize that the point has no bearing on the current situation, right? You are still threatining good rp'rs with PvP whoring, right?
' Wrote:or are you just ignoring whatever trumps your argument.
That would make me an outcast clan member, since none of you have bothered to answer my questions. Why is that? Why are you afraid to engage in a point by point debate on this topic?
' Wrote:and riddle me this.
why should someone who doesnt RP be tolerated by other players in an RP Server, much less if that person is in a capship
Example please? You do realize that the current persicution scheme does not differintiate RP'rs from non rp'rs, it only differentiates registerers from non registerers, right?
' Wrote:No, they left because the new government PvP whored them, just like the 101st wants to do with the indies.
As I said, anyone who is declared a traitor by any faction has a place to go, keeping their equipment. PM me and we'll get it going.
Wrong. Their Emperor got kicked out of power by a coup and the Blood Dragons were the Emperor's royal bodyguard. Leave them alone, their not part of the argument.
' Wrote:Speaking as someone completely uninvolved in this...
Akumabito, look around you. You are in a hole. Please put the shovel down.
I'm siding with the 101st here. Their request is very simple, entirely understandable, and not nearly as strict as you seem to think. And you are greeting it with far too much hostility, as though you read two lines of the original declaration and refused to listen after that.
Do you have any 101st/RoS/BLS characters?
' Wrote:A lot of outcast clan members supporting their right to PvP whore indies for not kissing their backside. Is that a hole?
Yes. That is a hole.:lol:
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' Wrote:I really don't see all the fuss about this policy. The RM, KNF, BAF, even the Lane Hackers have policies regarding capital ship usage. The RM one is even more restrictive than this one, however I don't know about the Kusari/Bretonnia ones.
Simply put, if you can simply post on the forums/show a bit of roleplay about the purchase of your destroyer, you will be allowed. Said player is now introduced to the forums, so he can further extend his/her discovery experience.
The Battleship and Dreadnaught are more restricted, but if you can roleplay it + provide background for its production, good. You can fly it.
There are two main groups affected by the policy. Independents who roleplay, and those who don't. The ones who roleplay just have to spend a bit of their time for the registration. The ones who don't roleplay won't bother with the registering and would rather risk their character's life than spend a few minutes RP with a faction Outcast member (in the case of the Destroyer).
We'd have Rheinland/RM/Kusari/KNF in the title if we're talking about them. Please feel free to start a topic about the RM and KNF.
Btw, I RP a Destroyer. It's story is in my signature. I have not registered it. Are you going to tell me that my Roleplay is bad?
' Wrote:The other thing I find sad is that I get support on PM's from people that don't post in the thread. What does that say about this clan/indie relationship that many indies don't feel free to express their opinions openly? That's the atmosphere that the clans foster.
This does happen. Indies feel they'll be given a KOS, if they stand up and talk against the policies.
' Wrote:who is PVP whoring? not the 101st.
sense this whole thing started, only 1 person has been fired on by the 101st to my knowledge , and that was by me. it lasted for about 20 seconds before we opened up comms and came to an agreement. most of the issues are sorted out in the forums.
youre just pulling all these 'points' out of your arse.
you have no valid point of view on the matter, youre not i the 101st and you dont havent bought a destroyer from us yet, so untill one of those bridges are crossed, you have no understanding of the matter.
I have, and mine's not registered.
Oh, and btw, I believe Akumabito is very close to acquiring one. So he'll be in "it" soon enough.
Oh, you mean you're on the server 24/7? And you have seen everyone that has been potentially persecuted by the PVP whoring decision made by the 101st?
Well that's alright then, because you have seen every single case and you're on the server 24/7 you must know everything that has gone down on the server.
Quote:I have, and mine's not registered.
Oh, and btw, I believe Akumabito is very close to acquiring one. So he'll be in "it" soon enough.
Oh, you mean you're on the server 24/7? And you have seen everyone that has been potentially persecuted by the PVP whoring decision made by the 101st?
Well that's alright then, because you have seen every single case and you're on the server 24/7 you must know everything that has gone down on the server.
i said to the best of my knowledge, and youre not on the KoS list you being attacked make no differance, you probaly just pissed off a 101st member and using this as an excuse (and if im wronge post screenies) and no im not on the server 24/7....but guess what the 101st has a skype chat that is open 24/7 and we report each engagment on it, so i dont need to be online 24/7
Quote:Of course I did, but you do realize that the point has no bearing on the current situation, right? You are still threatining good rp'rs with PvP whoring, right?
uuh no were threating 'no rp' with pvp. which has been stated numerous times.
Quote:That would make me an outcast clan member, since none of you have bothered to answer my questions. Why is that? Why are you afraid to engage in a point by point debate on this topic?
' Wrote:Wrong. Their Emperor got kicked out of power by a coup and the Blood Dragons were the Emperor's royal bodyguard. Leave them alone, their not part of the argument.
I think the parallel is there, although it isn't exact. It does show how a group that was part of the government can be in exile because they were targeted for elimination by another part of the government.
It'sthe same thing with the [CSW] faction, they exist because they didn't want to surrender their authority to a faction within their goverment that formed a coup.
They were forced out, like the Shoguns bodyguards, and they became an outcast goverment, the [CSW], the Community of Seperated Warriors
' Wrote:i said to the best of my knowledge, and youre not on the KoS list you being attacked make no differance, you probaly just pissed off a 101st member and using this as an excuse (and if im wronge post screenies) and no im not on the server 24/7....but guess what the 101st has a skype chat that is open 24/7 and we report each engagment on it, so i dont need to be online 24/7
uuh no were threating 'no rp' with pvp. which has been stated numerous times.
then post your questions:
post
them
like
this
and i will answer them.
The best of your knowledge is not everything, which is what is being highlighted in my post.
You don't know all my chars, as I certainly don't have all of them in my sig. As such, it would be impossible for you to know whether I am KOS or not.
As for screenies, don't worry.:rolleyes:
Yes. Skype chat 24/7 does not mean server presence 24/7. I bet I can easily find a screenie with no 101st members online, (Or RoS or BLS for that matter) but I think it would be best to just take my word on the grounds that many members of the server can simply testify to that.
Solve capship-whoring with PVP-whoring? Ever heard the quote "Bombing for peace...."?
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' Wrote:I think the parallel is there, although it isn't exact. It does show how a group that was part of the government can be in exile because they were targeted for elimination by another part of the government.
It'sthe same thing with the [CSW] faction, they exist because they didn't want to surrender their authority to a faction within their goverment that formed a coup.
They were forced out, like the Shoguns bodyguards, and they became an outcast goverment, the [CSW], the Community of Seperated Warriors
Quote:That would make me an outcast clan member, since none of you have bothered to answer my questions. Why is that? Why are you afraid to engage in a point by point debate on this topic?
then post your questions:
* post
* them
* like
* this
and i will answer them.
:unsure:
Quote:You don't know all my chars, as I certainly don't have all of them in my sig. As such, it would be impossible for you to know whether I am KOS or not.
there is only one person on our list, and its not you....wow that was easy.
Quote:Yes. Skype chat 24/7 does not mean server presence 24/7. I bet I can easily find a screenie with no 101st members online, (Or RoS or BLS for that matter) but I think it would be best to just take my word on the grounds that many members of the server can simply testify to that.
well if theyre not online...how are they attacking you?
and when they are online, and attack...say a destroyer or any capship its posted on that skype chat....hey another easy one.
Quote:Solve capship-whoring with PVP-whoring? Ever heard the quote "Bombing for peace...."?
yeah i have, it ends with something like "screwing for virginity.''...whats your point, are you gona start reciting bob dylan songs now?
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