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Sidewinder missiles need to be nerfed/deleted

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Sidewinder missiles need to be nerfed/deleted
Offline Backo
09-02-2017, 05:45 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:44 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:43 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:42 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:39 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:37 PM)Wesker Wrote: Id like to know how you deal with 5 people shooting you with sidewinders.

I don't, when have you seen 5 people log snubs lately?

20 minutes ago

And how many were on your side?

Zero

So what you're saying is you're angry that 5 people could kill you in a 5v1?

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Offline Jayce
09-02-2017, 05:45 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:45 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:44 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:43 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:42 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:39 PM)Backo Wrote: I don't, when have you seen 5 people log snubs lately?

20 minutes ago

And how many were on your side?

Zero

So what you're saying is you're angry that 5 people could kill you in a 5v1?

Just proving my point.

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Offline Wesker
09-02-2017, 05:46 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:45 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:44 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:43 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:42 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:39 PM)Backo Wrote: I don't, when have you seen 5 people log snubs lately?

20 minutes ago

And how many were on your side?

Zero

So what you're saying is you're angry that 5 sets of sidewinders could kill you in a 5v1?

Yea you're right.
Offline Sombs
09-02-2017, 05:47 PM,
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How many people would they have needed to kill Wesker without Sidewinders?




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Offline Backo
09-02-2017, 05:48 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:47 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: How many people would they have needed to kill Wesker without Sidewinders?

I imagine 5 would've done it anyways, albeit slower.

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Offline Wesker
09-02-2017, 05:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2017, 05:51 PM by Wesker.)
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(09-02-2017, 05:44 PM)Jayce Wrote: Snub players have lorded over everyone else for YEARS how hard their shipclass is to fly, how every other class is irrelevant.

The second anything AT ALL interrupts this dynamic, they fly into a blind rage. It happened with GB missiles, it happened with Solaris, and now it's happening with Sidewinders.

Do good for 'em, I say.

What part of this is stating that other classes are irrelevant, this "dynamic" is balance in general, and I do think it shouldn't be made so that there's no skill factor. I went off about how garabge caps were from idiotic changes like this one in this thread.


There's no one sided dynamic for snub pilots that im arguing about. I've never really, legitimately to the point of making complaint threads, given a shit about how caps have effected snub pvp.
Offline Backo
09-02-2017, 05:52 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:50 PM)Wesker Wrote: There's no one sided dynamic for snub pilots that im arguing about. I've really, legitimately to the point of making complaint threads, given a ***** about how caps have effected snub pvp.

Give me a class example outside of snubs where 1 person could fight in a 5v1 and win. I find it silly you got mad that 5 people could beat you in a 5v1.

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Offline Wesker
09-02-2017, 05:55 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:52 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:50 PM)Wesker Wrote: There's no one sided dynamic for snub pilots that im arguing about. I've really, legitimately to the point of making complaint threads, given a ***** about how caps have effected snub pvp.

Give me a class example outside of snubs where 1 person could fight in a 5v1 and win. I find it silly you got mad that 5 people could beat you in a 5v1.

Battleships, battleship to battleship combat.

Hmm, what else, cruiser to cruiser combat is possible. Ive done both of the above.

Snubs are actually more skill based than caps now, so its more possible in snubs than it is in caps. This isn't about one fight, this crap has been a buildup of shit upon shit upon shit since the day they were implemented. I don't complain when I'm gunned down by 5 people, I find it absurd that someone would make a missile capable of making every other means of killing a VHF or below irrelevant.
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09-02-2017, 05:55 PM,
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inb4 vanilla cannonballs and nomad energy cannons/blasters :^)
 
Offline Antonio
09-02-2017, 05:55 PM,
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(09-02-2017, 05:41 PM)Backo Wrote:
(09-02-2017, 05:40 PM)Jayce Wrote: itt: butthurts that are upset they can't dominate snub group pvp now

Waa, waa, someone has a method to get around the fact that I'm better than them and now I can't stomp them ;c

Funny thing is nobody is stopping either side to equip sidewinders. But people want to be cool MR jockeys and miss razor shots and waste powercore. I mean it's their choice, sadly they complain it ruined their pvp.

How more clueless can you be? "Nothing's stopping you from doing the same" has been heard multiple times every time there was a discussion about something that's blatantly broken. It doesn't in any way, shape or form mean the ship/gun/whatever in question isn't broken, and in fact it usually just confirms the point people discuss. Sidewinders are as broken as it gets, a 400m/s missile with crazy damage in times when CMs don't work is a great formula for disaster.

People complained to Starkillers a -lot-, and Starkillers don't even come close to Sidewinders. They were slower. They could be CDed, dodged, CMed and they were a double edged sword. Sidewinders aren't, the only counter is CDing them for which you have to be facing the target -and- predict the missile since it's too fast to just shoot a CD near a pass. I'm genuinely shocked where you're coming from with this, unless you're just trolling.
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