The Heaven's Gate Seige | December (or longer) | Version 2.0 | Explained

["Jade Fire"]

The Archangels Fighter Club are waiting for you dev quote.

Why do we need a Dev quote? We're the base owners here. Unless a Dev says otherwise, the facts right now say that the Satsuma blueprint is not on the Arch.

Because Wild's homebase is not the Arch and Aoi is apart of the wilde, NEMP's can be used against any targets as long as its not a homeworld or a place that sells faction ID's, so it is up to the devs if he can NEMP the target or not

[sasapinjic]

There is a typo in first page where you say phase 2 will be from OCTOBER 15, it shuld be DECEMBER 15 right?

[HuggieSunrise]

I can see why there is a lot of energy behind this event. But sometimes i think people write this off merely on the premise that its too much like a scene out of fast and furious.

I mean i personally dont have a problem with that if your here to have fun and want to do that to enjoy it then great. Previous afc events with the racing and derby and the hege rumbles were amazing. I dont think the whole give and take is as critical as folks make this stuff out to be.

Nom might not have all the answers either and there nothing wrong with that. I just have seen (and done) this thing were trying to justify what we want becomes so completely disproportionate to the effort or other peoples opinions of whats actually harmful to them they forget the most important reason were here is to have fun excel in grand adventures and have phat lewt.

If they wanna pull off something like this lets get more targeted on the feedback.. take a break from trying so hard. get real honest about what everyone wants. there shouldent be anything sacred here.. within wisdom. Weve seen feast and famine here for over a decade.. lets just err on the side of moderating how we feel in exchange for making it a win win for everybody?

[Lythrilux]

The Archangels Fighter Club are waiting for you dev quote.

Why do we need a Dev quote? We're the base owners here. Unless a Dev says otherwise, the facts right now say that the Satsuma blueprint is not on the Arch.

Because Wild's homebase is not the Arch and Aoi is apart of the wilde, NEMP's can be used against any targets as long as its not a homeworld or a place that sells faction ID's, so it is up to the devs if he can NEMP the target or not

This is not regarding the NEMP. This is regarding the location of the Satsuma blueprints.

And actually, the Arch is the Wild's HQ in Kusari.

Also it's WILD, not Wilde. Wild is the umbrella term for both Aoi AND Wilde. Aoi is not a part of Das Wilde. Aoi is part of the Wild.

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["Jade Fire"]

The Archangels Fighter Club are waiting for you dev quote.

Why do we need a Dev quote? We're the base owners here. Unless a Dev says otherwise, the facts right now say that the Satsuma blueprint is not on the Arch.

Because Wild's homebase is not the Arch and Aoi is apart of the wilde, NEMP's can be used against any targets as long as its not a homeworld or a place that sells faction ID's, so it is up to the devs if he can NEMP the target or not

This is not regarding the NEMP. This is regarding the location of the Satsuma blueprints.

And actually, the Arch is the Wild's HQ in Kusari.

Also it's WILD, not Wilde. Wild is the umbrella term for both Aoi AND Wilde. Aoi is not a part of Das Wilde. Aoi is part of the Wild.

Well do you use something called an Aoi ID? No, as far as I know, its still the Wild ID, thus meaning its still a target regardless because every Wild base in Sirius sells the ID, so the point still stands regardless. As for the blueprints, that is also up to the devs if their there or not, because neither party has proven proof that they do or do not have them. Third off Lyth, if we could get the world of Aoi's leader in here, instead of a second voice, that would sort this out faster

[Lythrilux]

Well do you use something called an Aoi ID? No, as far as I know, its still the Wild ID, thus meaning its still a target regardless because every Wild base in Sirius sells the ID, so the point still stands regardless. As for the blueprints, that is also up to the devs if their there or not, because neither party has proven proof that they do or do not have them. Third off Lyth, if we could get the world of Aoi's leader in here, instead of a second voice, that would sort this out faster

Did you even read what I said at all? The NEMP isn't the target of my discussion here. Wild bases are fair game. Ok, whatever. It might not make the most sense in the world, but that's what the Admins have said. It's not like NEMPs in themselves can lead to long-term RP consequences, unless the story team gives the event their blessing with the agreement of the players involved.

Ok, by your logic lets say Synth Foods has Thebes blueprints. The Devs haven't made a statement saying they are or they are not there. You can't disprove me saying they locked up on Riverside Station. So now Rogues are going to make an event to raid Riverside so that they can get themselves Thebes blueprints, because they want to SRP it. Do you see how stupid and contrived this is? It's the exact same thing here.

I am stepping in as Aoi voice for the time as a representative. I am simply relaying the thoughts and feelings of the faction.

Yes it's called the WILD ID. NOT the Wilde ID.

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["Jade Fire"]

Well do you use something called an Aoi ID? No, as far as I know, its still the Wild ID, thus meaning its still a target regardless because every Wild base in Sirius sells the ID, so the point still stands regardless. As for the blueprints, that is also up to the devs if their there or not, because neither party has proven proof that they do or do not have them. Third off Lyth, if we could get the world of Aoi's leader in here, instead of a second voice, that would sort this out faster

Did you even read what I said at all? The NEMP isn't the target of my discussion here. Wild bases are fair game. Ok, whatever. It might not make the most sense in the world, but that's what the Admins have said. It's not like NEMPs in themselves can lead to long-term RP consequences, unless the story team gives the event their blessing with the agreement of the players involved.

Ok, by your logic lets say Synth Foods has Thebes blueprints. The Devs haven't made a statement saying they are or they are not there. You can't disprove me saying they locked up on Riverside Station. So now Rogues are going to make an event to raid Riverside so that they can get themselves Thebes blueprints, because they want to SRP it. Do you see how stupid and contrived this is? It's the exact same thing here.

I am stepping in as Aoi voice for the time as a representative. I am simply relaying the thoughts and feelings of the faction.

Yes it's called the WILD ID. NOT the Wilde ID.

I said Wild ID, please re-read what I typed. I can tell your getting angry so I'm going to once again ask for the voice of the Aoi leader then a step in Lyth. You are neither the Aoi leader nor Jansen, so unless either of them speak up, please reframe from speaking as one, this is up to those faction leaders to talk about, so let them talk about it.

Edit: This is my last message here, as its clear to me that this is going to end up locked again in the end.

[Ryummel]

[03/12/2017 10:06:02] Fran: the RP plot is fishy enough to have a clear 'yes' from Aoi side
[03/12/2017 10:06:10] Fran: even if ooRPly leads to pews and activity
[03/12/2017 10:06:19] Fran: but my honest opinion about this, pews only last during the event
[03/12/2017 10:06:38] Fran: it's pointless to say that this event "will catapult actvity" in the region

I always thought the reasons behind pushing for a SRP request was because a character or faction really needed it in order to advance in their plotline/storyline. This looked like "ok let's search for an unique ship in the wiki shiplist I would like to have" instead of anything ressembling some organic character/faction progression.

SRP requests shouldn't be taken with that attitude, and Aoi Iseijin won't contribute to undermining their actual purpose.

[Lythrilux]

I said Wild ID, please re-read what I typed. I can tell your getting angry so I'm going to once again ask for the voice of the Aoi leader then a step in Lyth. You are neither the Aoi leader nor Jansen, so unless either of them speak up, please reframe from speaking as one, this is up to those faction leaders to talk about, so let them talk about it.

Edit: This is my last message here, as its clear to me that this is going to end up locked again in the end.

I'm fairly mellowed out and listening to chill music right now. Please refrain from making this topic emotive, as people tend to think less rationally when they become emotional. Thanks.

I was emphasising that Aoi uses the Wild ID and is a Wild faction, not Wilde. It seemed like you were implying the point about Aoi being Wilde still stood.

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["Jade Fire"]

I said Wild ID, please re-read what I typed. I can tell your getting angry so I'm going to once again ask for the voice of the Aoi leader then a step in Lyth. You are neither the Aoi leader nor Jansen, so unless either of them speak up, please reframe from speaking as one, this is up to those faction leaders to talk about, so let them talk about it.

Edit: This is my last message here, as its clear to me that this is going to end up locked again in the end.

I'm fairly mellowed out and listening to chill music right now. Please refrain from making this topic emotive, as people tend to think less rationally when they become emotional. Thanks.

I was emphasising that Aoi uses the Wild ID and is a Wild faction, not Wilde. It seemed like you were implying the point about Aoi being Wilde still stood.

Not in the least, just seems like a misunderstanding on both ends, I apologize if it seems I was after anything, was just trying to keep things peaceful. Regardless, the Aoi leader as spoken so I'll take my leave from here