(07-01-2018, 10:00 PM)lreford Wrote: I suggested something that used to be on the old uk server a while back, and that was to give monetary rewards based on the craft being used. A fighter got 15 mil, transport got 11 mil and cap got 7mil.
And was it effective?
To go into more detail with my suggestion, actually rather than giving Sci-Data it would be better to give the rewards you can get with sci-data itself. I.e the most active faction in a region, or factions that achieve a certain level of activity, get a JHG or NEMP w/launcher to create more activity with. This would be better as it'd prevent outright hoarding of it, or it being used to make money, and instead, it goes back into server activity.
(07-01-2018, 10:10 PM)Laura C. Wrote: I don´t this this would help in any way. Factions which has to log more at the end of quarter because they don´t have enough activity would not get rewards anyway in such system. It would be just nice bonus for those who do not have activity problems, but would not help those who have them. Faction which has average logging time of 3 days will hardly suddenly start making 10 or more days just because some sci-datas can be acquired this way.
Then I would suggest tailoring the system to encourage those who aren't logging. "Hey, we see you're not logging that often - how about if you make x amount of activity this month we'll reward you with y?". Positive reinforcement, goal setting.
I absolutely agree and support Lythrilux's vision.
Also, we did have a reward based on upon gaining officialdom, a faction was granted an optional NEMP launcher and a Cap 8.
Why not turn this same old rewarding system over, to a activity based rewarding? Toys that generate activity, makes people more enthusiastic towards their factions. However this also has to be carefully thought through , to not give overly powered advantages to the other factions.
But if this idea is carefully thought through, it would be a very awesome twist to motivate factions to generate activity
(07-01-2018, 10:18 PM)Vex. Wrote: I absolutely agree and support Lythrilux's vision.
Also, we did have a reward based on upon gaining officialdom, a faction was granted an optional NEMP launcher and a Cap 8.
Why not turn this same old rewarding system over, to a activity based rewarding? Toys that generate activity, makes people more enthusiastic towards their factions. However this also has to be carefully thought through , to not give overly powered advantages to the other factions.
But if this idea is carefully thought through, it would be a very awesome twist to motivate factions to generate activity
It would also provide factions with faction money, instead of requiring the faction to tax its members or ask for donations ect
(07-01-2018, 10:10 PM)Laura C. Wrote: I don´t this this would help in any way. Factions which has to log more at the end of quarter because they don´t have enough activity would not get rewards anyway in such system. It would be just nice bonus for those who do not have activity problems, but would not help those who have them. Faction which has average logging time of 3 days will hardly suddenly start making 10 or more days just because some sci-datas can be acquired this way.
Then I would suggest tailoring the system to encourage those who aren't logging. "Hey, we see you're not logging that often - how about if you make x amount of activity this month we'll reward you with y?". Positive reinforcement, goal setting.
Don´t want to be negative, but I don´t think this would help. Factions which have activity problems mostly have them because their playerbase either gets too small or goes inactive (often it´s actually combination of both). Promise of reward can not help the faction to get new active members and can motivate people who went inactive to be active again only in very limited way. After all, they personally will not get anything and majority of players are not that dedicated to be happy only by fact that faction got something thanks to their activity.
(07-01-2018, 10:28 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Don´t want to be negative, but I don´t think this would help. Factions which have activity problems mostly have them because their playerbase either gets too small or goes inactive (often it´s actually combination of both).
True, but that requires much more complex changes which is the result of complex problems. Best to start simple.
(07-01-2018, 10:28 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Promise of reward can not help the faction to get new active members and can motivate people who went inactive to be active again only in very limited way. After all, they personally will not get anything and majority of players are not that dedicated to be happy only by fact that faction got something thanks to their activity.
Then perhaps include individual rewards as well for the most active ships in that faction as well?
(07-01-2018, 10:28 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Don´t want to be negative, but I don´t think this would help. Factions which have activity problems mostly have them because their playerbase either gets too small or goes inactive (often it´s actually combination of both).
True, but that requires much more complex changes which is the result of complex problems. Best to start simple.
(07-01-2018, 10:28 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Promise of reward can not help the faction to get new active members and can motivate people who went inactive to be active again only in very limited way. After all, they personally will not get anything and majority of players are not that dedicated to be happy only by fact that faction got something thanks to their activity.
Then perhaps include individual rewards as well for the most active ships in that faction as well?
Then you end up rewarding traders who spend 2 days ingame, not saying a word.
Doesn't help the RP environment in any way, and instead promotes mindless afking or powertrading..
Last words are for fools who have not yet said enough.
(07-01-2018, 10:33 PM)Lucas Wrote: Then you end up rewarding traders who spend 2 days ingame, not saying a word.
Doesn't help the RP environment in any way, and instead promotes mindless afking or powertrading.
Not every faction is a power trading faction. In fact, I think trade factions make up the minority of all Official Factions. And if a player in a Corp OF does just afk power trade, people will notice, people will complain in feedback threads, and it will look negatively on that faction, to the community and the Staff. And the Staff won't reward behaviour like that.
The idea I mentioned was effective enough as the 15/11/7 was an hourly thing and it had to be a complete hour. Unfortunately for the uk clans I was involved with, I was the main money maker. Ended up with several CAU VIIIs because of it.
(07-01-2018, 10:35 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Not every faction is a power trading faction. In fact, I think trade factions make up the minority of all Official Factions. And if a player in a Corp OF does just afk power trade, people will notice, people will complain in feedback threads, and it will look negatively on that faction, to the community and the Staff. And the Staff won't reward behaviour like that.
That is true, but the trading factions are almost always among the most active, and so you would end up rewarding them too.
You shouldn't try to force people to log for things, the community and the activity is slowly dropping, and if you just try to force people into playing factions that they normally would not log because they want rewards then that would ultimately end up in lame, boring, lazy RP, if you even get any.
Last words are for fools who have not yet said enough.
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