BMM

[Qunitinius~Verginix]

The post looks really great! You have definitely put a lot of thought into this. The BMM would be really well represented with this faction. But.....
Have you paid your 500 million fee? I can't see anything saying you have.

Verg

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[kacijon]

maybe you didn't knew .Well at least 350mio is on BMM-Storage ship

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Former CEO of BMM
I had women, gold, luxury, carpets and luxury liner....

[tarr_james@hotmail.com]

the money is being put together as we speak, for that reason it in this area and not the Faction creation post

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[kacijon]

Well We are thinking to put Post on Faction Creation Request This Week.

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Former CEO of BMM
I had women, gold, luxury, carpets and luxury liner....

[Oniros]

1) IMG and BMM are civilians - meaning they do not declare a military war. But... nothing prevent a BMM or IMG agent to sabotage or manage an indirect attack against a convoy or an isolated miner ship. For a day-to-day basis, unfriendly mean no direct engagement. But, the door is open for RP events. Btw, BMM cannot engage a war alone against IMG because IMG have capital ships.

2) For Mining and shipping operations, the realist process should be :
Miners collect then shippers take and deliver. The marging profit is 100%/sell price. In Game, it is really unfair of course, an no one will ever play a Miner as the expected profit is ridiculous if he do not ship by himself the raw material collected. Imagine a gold miner in Dublin selling only at Graves station. Let say that in one hour he will make 3M, the shipper will do 30M.
In the reality, 30M goes directly to the company and the company pay salaries. So... if i follow the perfect reality : Every week, all shippers give the whole sum to the Directors and they divide the sum less the margin profit they keep to run the compagny and reinvest.
To be perfectly realist, the shippers will mostly haul the raw material mined and the manufactured goods. No way ! The reality sucks !

So...A Miner works hard and sees no profit but
"the Miner Syndicate will defend your rights !" :P

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"Perfection, honesty, devotion"
"Immortality is our subconscious main concern"
"To change the system, you have to be inside the system and play by the rules"

[tarr_james@hotmail.com]

Yes as real as i have tryed to make it see that being to real is way out, but for now if people wanted to join as a miner they would still have that problem of not making much, so i either pay more or just hope that they want to RP and not make money......ok i'll pay them and not traders but traders can keep 100%, give me 5 mins and check again

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[tarr_james@hotmail.com]

Updated, Pay system as fun as it seemed has been taken away, apart from Miners because of their lack of profit and hard work they have to endure

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[Oniros]

Maybe as incentive, let say that a miner have a regular salary and a small weekly bonus, calculated on the basis of the redistributed 20% profit given by the shippers. The compagny need capital to run, and profit to reinvest. So 20% = 10% Executive, 5% salary to Miner and Escorter, the Shipper have the 80% remaining.

Fast math :
1 run= 10M $
3 shippers making 4 runs each days, 2 miners and 2 escorts
3 * 4 *10 = 120M $/day
80% of 120M $ = 96M $ so each shipper earn 32M $ by day
5% of 120M$ = 6M $ so each miner and escort earn 3M $ by day.
10% for the company = 12M $ to pay salaries and keep the rest in bank.
TOTAL income/week for a Miner/Escort = 28M $ as weekly bonus pretty decent now...

Do something like this and you have plenty of miners and escorters (including me as both maybe:P)

Huh ? The money made by the miner ? Which money Sir ? I have bring the whole raw material to one of our mining station for manufacturing. I made no money sir !

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"Perfection, honesty, devotion"
"Immortality is our subconscious main concern"
"To change the system, you have to be inside the system and play by the rules"

[tarr_james@hotmail.com]

Very interesting idea not much of a profit margin in the Business side of things but still very interesting indeed.

Most of the Escorts will be in this basicly for a faction to be in, the miners will be the same for RP and other reasons, Traders will be mainly in it to win it and make the money. As i have said people are welcome to make a Escort and trader char for that reason so if they feel they want to make money without having to go and start a indie trader they have the option to do so.

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[ian]

1) IMG and BMM are civilians - meaning they do not declare a military war. But... nothing prevent a BMM or IMG agent to sabotage or manage an indirect attack against a convoy or an isolated miner ship. For a day-to-day basis, unfriendly mean no direct engagement. But, the door is open for RP events. Btw, BMM cannot engage a war alone against IMG because IMG have capital ships.

that is true we do have capitol ships but we have only 2 of them and even they are not used except defense of a station and to enforce a no-firing-within-5k rule plus most of the time only one of them are online at any given time unless needed too, we mainly have fighters in our defense wing for escort duties and the likes of missions