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suggestions to stop the pvp and capwhoring
Offline Kuraine
06-29-2008, 12:40 AM,
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You cannot get bribes for the military factions or for the Order, so it will make it a pain for lawful military types to buy their Guard ID (have to do missions to max it out), but that too might help cut down on the amount of "independent" navy types around, since they can't buy their capital ship until they've gotten the ID, which of course they can't buy until they've got the Guard rep maxed out.

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Offline kingvaillant
06-29-2008, 03:36 AM,
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and they must also know where the ship is sold. Nobody will waste his time to kill NPCs just to see what is in "X" system. Few are the newbies aware of side programs

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Offline Tenacity
06-29-2008, 04:29 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-29-2008, 04:29 AM by Tenacity.)
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' Wrote:and they must also know where the ship is sold. Nobody will waste his time to kill NPCs just to see what is in "X" system. Few are the newbies aware of side programs

why?

All you have to do is use open singleplayer (part of the mod anyways) to check out any system or ships you want, and you can set full friendly rep to everyone but nomads/wilde with it. I use open SP to 'try out' every ship before I buy one on the server.

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Offline Colonel Z.e.r.o.
06-29-2008, 05:46 AM,
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If everyone had maxed out Guard rep what would happen in the end is everyone being red to us or us being red to them as the average player is red to 8 of out of 10 guard factions the only way to get a guard system rep up into neutral quickly is bribing after that it's hard working for us the would be a non stop flow of corsairs headed into OC guard systems or vice versa. That scary-ass Rhineland danger music would never stop.

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Offline kindred
06-29-2008, 06:13 AM,
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Who knew that all anyone has to do is camp a jumpgate for hours without end to "have proven their worth here"
Whoohooo :yahoo:




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Offline Teknikal
06-29-2008, 09:44 AM,
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I completely fail to see why the push for guard tags what's it achieve exactly I could get it on any of my characters right now just by flying round and dropping some missions but I'm really missing the point I guess.

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Offline Athenian
06-29-2008, 12:29 PM,
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Quote:Bounty Hunter standard changes
allows fighters and freighters, can go anywhere. Disallows transports.

Bounty Hunter Guard: (requires maxed out Guard reputation to buy)
Allows up to gunboats, disallows transports. Can go anywhere.

Bounty Hunter Guild Core ID: (requires maxed out Guard reputation to buy)
Allows all ships (except transports), is restricted to the Omicron and Omega systems only.

Ooops. This is different from what the ID proposal thread says. Will the real one please stand up? No non combat vessel of 500 cargo size or larger; that rules out the Prison Liner and Armoured Transport that I bought just for RP. No fair.

*has tantrum* :mellow:

Can you clarify this kuraine?




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Offline Meskalin
06-29-2008, 01:09 PM,
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<span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%]Okay comrades, my thoughts on that:

1. Battleship Licenses


- fully agree with you

2. Battlecruisers

- well, the only Battlecruiser I see the most time is the Hunter one. (why they are not trying their Detroyers??) and they have a very good bomber too...

3. Guard Systems

- nothing to that, from light fighter up to a battlecruiser you can buy and fly everything with the right IFF/ID/RP, no need for register (just for Battleships)

- register capships in Cruiser-class would be nice, but you should not force them to do
(if they have good rp, they dont need to register, if they have bad rp = talk to them and learn them how things go, maybe they are great cruiser captains but just didnt know how to rp it right.
Take good Indie-rp'lers at your hands and help them to become part of the factions rp)

4. Bombers

- nothing against the bombers...; you loose angainst them, then, well, you are not good enough.
I fought bombers in my orca and won and I fought bombers in my wrath and loose. And the next day my gb looses and my wrath wins... It's all according to your own skills, mate, and the skills of the others.
- bombers are good as they are

5. OORP Trade routes

Not remove trading route by admin (it's like "God's hand)
If trader pass trough a guard system, then well, they have to be prepared to be killed for that, no choice, no whining...
If the trader wishes to come again, well, then he get killed again, its just that easy...
Cause, like in Alaska, you can always say, they shouldnt have to go this way, if there is nobody there stopping them from doing so, they WILL DO IT.
And thats right i think, your guard systems, your trader problems and your trader-frags...

1. The Cardamine smugglers in order space.
(sorry, what a silly route... try this one: Alpha-Beta-sigma19-sigma13-frankfurt-hamburg-bering-texas)
- much more easier, hauling the same stuff without passing through an order system... good smuggling-rp-route

2. The diamond/niobium route:
well, same as for the order space, seem to be dragons and chrysamthemes problems, so they should find a solution (fitting their rp, i think they will found a way to manage this quick)

S13-NB- jh couldnt be removed, think of the GMG history and the 80years-contract and the fights before.

6. Guard system NPC's

- fully agree with that

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Offline Tenacity
06-29-2008, 06:34 PM,
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' Wrote:I completely fail to see why the push for guard tags what's it achieve exactly I could get it on any of my characters right now just by flying round and dropping some missions but I'm really missing the point I guess.

It shows that you've put more effort into your character than most people do.

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Offline Teknikal
06-29-2008, 11:53 PM,
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' Wrote:It shows that you've put more effort into your character than most people do.

Not really I suspect the majority of players are already green with their guard faction I don't see it solving any problems and if anything guard npcs are easier to manipulate than normal ones all it takes is missions.
If i wanted to I'm pretty sure I could make a character who could fly through every guard system in the game of course that would take planning and would be quite oorp.

Still I think if anyone actually believes this will solve anything they haven't actually thought it through what I see happening is factions will get more and more annoyed at players running into their systems to buy an ID. I see this adding to the hostility on the server.

Although maybe I'll switch my characters over anyway if it's already planned it's to late to debate it.

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