Notice: Roleplay Canonization Requests

[Altejago]

So basically what we're seeing here is this:

1) you pay a billion credits, non-refundable, to maybe get someone to look at your thing and determine whether or not they like it enough to make it real
2) that request can be anything ranging in scope from "pls make that time i cybered with someone for an osiris canon" to "takin' over a system lol"
3) the whole process is completely hidden behind closed doors from the community so only the dev team can see what's going on while they maybe think about voting on it

I can already see certain requests being approved in minutes flat while others stall out for a year or more before being answered with a "No."

Christ, guys. The community hates you enough already. Why the hell would you post this?

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As if they weren't trusted to do a good job in the first place, this simply exemplifies everyone's varying opinions about the staff here - Useless and biased.

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[The Milk of Kauket]

Am I the only one who made a comparison of this system with the previos system? Because I do think that going through the process of an SRP just to get something as trivial as player roleplay to become considered canon is still better than getting a brown nose by befriending with the already hilariously arbitrarily acting story devs. The only thing I would prefer would be more transparency on the vote after publishing the result.

[Reeves]

HF and Harmony requests get priority, got it. When are factions that have seen no development for years get justice in the form of relevance? Probably more complicated than just deleting them.

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[LaWey]

I dont understand people. When your RP in stories and etc were canonized at all? What changes for you? Emm? Are you damn seriously here dont understand that now you got system for processing crap lol?
I will begin from start.

So not only do you have to ask first before you can roleplay, but you must also now pay a non-refundable 1 billion payment and hope it doesn't conflict with any secret plans you're not privy to.

So progressive faction roleplay is effectively locked behind a gamble paywall. How would writing stories in the stories section and doing repetitive message dumps on the newest space fart be constructive to faction members/leaders who are itching for pace and things to do?

Yes, like before your Core RP went in any another way Lyth, are you serious here? For gods sake i see it all for 2 years already, how the hell it will be worse than what you have now lol.

So in order to Role Play, I need to ask an already extremely busy Dev Team (and I use that in a loose term) and hope for a response sometime within the next century. I also need to pay 1 billion credits for it and HOPE it dosent conflict with any RP you are doing privately which could result in denial anyways.

How your RP Kalh, affect canonical assets in 90% of cases when you dont change another word in your SRP?

"Hey guys wouldn't it be great to discount public opinion as a method of prioritization and vetting potential decisions?"

With all respect, opinion is like hole in ass, and my own as well is just shetposting about halftime. With tendention of disco community stuck everything at status quo, this is terrible inefficient thing to relate.

Not everyone powertrades as much as you do grosh

You even dont make any RP for canonisation darky, and just shetpostin here). Those who really need changes will find 1 bil, this is not big money, and if you change really needed you will find investors after all. Crowdfunding is a thing, children.

I literally see no point in this existing since we have the "Mod Development Requests" section already. I see no reason why you couldn't request something like this there before. You offer basically the same functionality but for money now.

It will be the same people voting with the same reasoning.

Shiki rised good argument. What indeed difference? Tho i can already see, that for example what i requested and will request in it, not linked with RP canon changes at all (effects, starspheres, models).

Btw this section works now? Cos i just see it first time, and before i did what should've go here through player's request.

I am more concerned about the 2 month cooldown, the mod teams capacity to complete the changes, and the age old "is this RP sufficient?!" question that has no clear answer and has frustrated players especially regarding SRPs.

this is really way more interesting questions than really hilarious reaction on one billion pixel money requirement of people who anyway didnt got any change for years lol. Or from people who ever never considered do any canonical RP changes.

My own thought is like what Wesker said. Dont see what it change at all. Now you just cant bomb devs about RP requests.

P.S. To make it really different from what exist now, add transparency in process. Will make it way more efficient.

[LaWey]

Okay your point here sound solid, but again. How this change it in bad side?

Let me show. You had nothing at all, now you have tool to achieve certain things. This is adding alot of conviency as for me, especially if compare with regional devchats.

P.S. I did quotations not just for sake of quotations, but because some people here had their requests fucked without any forms. Or their things had nothing to do with what fell under this form. Or they never ever considered requests any changes like this. Now they have at least partially formalised way to request what they want, but its still makes them pissed. That what i find hilarious, yes.

Edit 2: Yeah, also what i find hilarious is that requirement to be convient with current lore, which inconvient themselve in many cases. But consultation with Unseliee free at least.

[Typrop]

Okay your point here sound solid, but again. How this change it in bad side?

Let me show. You had nothing at all, now you have tool to achieve certain things. This is adding alot of conviency as for me, especially if compare with regional devchats.

Beforehand? It was just asking the devs. There was no official conduit because there did not need to be one. You're achieving the same process, just with more paperwork and documentation, while still relying on the developers to unanimously agree that your idea is viable, in their eyes.

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[Liberty.In]

Let me show. You had nothing at all, now you have tool to achieve certain things. This is adding alot of conviency as for me, especially if compare with regional devchats.

It is necessary to emphasize that for the most part the efforts of the players were already suppressed by the development team at those moments when the war of Kusari and Rheinland began. Do the developers know their own canon in order to break the relationship between the two Houses and forcibly send them to war among themselves?

Instead of analyzing the RP game and drawing any conclusions based on it (which is not so difficult, no matter how stupid the game is), the players were clearly told that now every step of them left or right should be paid 1 billion credits. At the same time, the developers emphasized that such actions of the team have the root cause, but not even links acting as evidence were indicated.

That is, people are told that before 2 + 2 = 4, and now 2 + 2 = 5. And why 2 + 2 = 5 - no one will explain, no one will tell. And people should agree with that. Only the topic of backroom deals is indicated, which once again suggests that developers are not able to control their own team. They cannot make it clear to their team that any action in favor of one player will be punished by instant exclusion from the development team.

I do not want to say something against the team. They said it themselves, beginning to admit their mistakes.

So what is the point now in general to do something, being an official fraction, if, in addition to 500 million for supplying the tracker and official status, you will also have to pay for your RP that you want to influence the world of Sirius? EOS is therefore not going to be an official faction - we do not see the point or benefit in this. Nobody explained to us what the benefits of being an official faction are (although I asked this question).

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[The Milk of Kauket]

To sum it up, people are complaining about a more structured and openly available way to get an absolute luxury, something that literally affects nobody except some people's weak ego, that actually costs something and can't be spammed all the way over. Meanwhile people are playing this game for years, sitting on billions, taxing people and PoBs, smuggling was never easier, everyone knows at least two reliably filled ore PoBs, they know the staff is horribly busy and even complain about the procession of SRPs taking longer than a month (which in comparison to previous years is hilarious) and worry about things not getting positively voted on in a time where you can get a Satsuma with just one post of RP.

[Typrop]

To sum it up, people are complaining about a more structured and openly available way to get an absolute luxury, something that literally affects nobody except some people's weak ego, that actually costs something and can't be spammed all the way over. Meanwhile people are playing this game for years, sitting on billions, taxing people and PoBs, smuggling was never easier, everyone knows at least two reliably filled ore PoBs, they know the staff is horribly busy and even complain about the procession of SRPs taking longer than a month (which in comparison to previous years is hilarious) and worry about things not getting positively voted on in a time where you can get a Satsuma with just one post of RP.

Forgive me for this, but you are practicing the same assumption that all people powertrade constantly, and that the development team hasn't been fickle. I point again to Xeno Alliance, for debunking this. Whether or not the staff are horribly busy does not excuse the fact that this is essentially saying that you cannot "naturally" get your things canonized, by having a great deal of influence on events, of your own accord, instead having to essentially do the same thing as before but with greater restriction. If having your role-play affect the role-play environment is a luxury, then I do not wish to see what you call necessity, because if you have played even one tabletop game you come to the realization that players do not play for a pre-ordained story, so much as to create a story.

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[The Milk of Kauket]

Discovery was working without player roleplay canonization for a long enough time to prove that people shouldn't give a damn about what is considered canon. The only things that matter are, matter of factly, what people roleplay. No matter if it is canonized or not.

The majority of players stay and stick for months and years. Nobody can convince me that people do their best to put efforts into their roleplay while trying their best to not do anything profitable ingame - simply because capitals and CAUs and special equipment exist.