Official Faction Activity Fourth Quarter 2019

[SnakThree]

TL;DR If you belong to an Official Faction, you should give example not only in-game or on the forums, but also with your own Discord.

I witnessed such a system applied in a few places and it works just fine.

How would you enforce that. Discord thought police to monitor the faction servers for the greater good?

What if someone says something on public discord. Which faction gets warned if person belongs to more than one?

Kinda lame way to deal with it, as not factions should be punished for individual behavior, but that particular individual.

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[The Listener]

What if someone says something on public discord. Which faction gets warned if person belongs to more than one?

Kinda lame way to deal with it, as not factions should be punished for individual behavior, but that particular individual.

No mercy, if we are speaking about Discovery Discord servers, both OPF can be in danger of being slapped with warnings. However, about that below.

Ability to held entire OPF responsible should make leaders reconsider holding toxic players within faction and if the warning should happen, they would have two options: kick out the player in question given the evidence - or live with such a warning mark, trying to at least fix the player's behaviour too. There were cases of OPF leaders ignoring scandalous behaviour of their players - or players not being able to be punished for trolling just because abuse didn't happen on the forums or in-game. Of course, people can block such individuals but be completely lost in some talks, because you cannot see messages of the blocked people on the server channels.

@Chrysalis It's simple: bring the screenshots of the abusive content from Discord group, with Admins or Mods having an ability to join OPF chat in question to check logs - unless those are deleted. However, holding screenshots of the abusive message - along with username and the number - is not against Discord's TOS, should the message(s) be deleted.

[Omicron]

Post it with your main account if you feel the need to post such cringe.

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[SnakThree]

Imagine someone disliking faction. Joining it. Posting offensive stuff. Getting faction warned.

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[Goliath]

What if someone says something on public discord. Which faction gets warned if person belongs to more than one?

Kinda lame way to deal with it, as not factions should be punished for individual behavior, but that particular individual.

No mercy, if we are speaking about Discovery Discord servers, both OPF can be in danger of being slapped with warnings. However, about that below.

Ability to held entire OPF responsible should make leaders reconsider holding toxic players within faction and if the warning should happen, they would have two options: kick out the player in question given the evidence - or live with such a warning mark, trying to at least fix the player's behaviour too. There were cases of OPF leaders ignoring scandalous behaviour of their players - or players not being able to be punished for trolling just because abuse didn't happen on the forums or in-game. Of course, people can block such individuals but be completely lost in some talks, because you cannot see messages of the blocked people on the server channels.

@Chrysalis It's simple: bring the screenshots of the abusive content from Discord group, with Admins or Mods having an ability to join OPF chat in question to check logs - unless those are deleted. However, holding screenshots of the abusive message - along with username and the number - is not against Discord's TOS, should the message(s) be deleted.

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[Typrop]

What if someone says something on public discord. Which faction gets warned if person belongs to more than one?

Kinda lame way to deal with it, as not factions should be punished for individual behavior, but that particular individual.

No mercy, if we are speaking about Discovery Discord servers, both OPF can be in danger of being slapped with warnings. However, about that below.

Ability to held entire OPF responsible should make leaders reconsider holding toxic players within faction and if the warning should happen, they would have two options: kick out the player in question given the evidence - or live with such a warning mark, trying to at least fix the player's behaviour too. There were cases of OPF leaders ignoring scandalous behaviour of their players - or players not being able to be punished for trolling just because abuse didn't happen on the forums or in-game. Of course, people can block such individuals but be completely lost in some talks, because you cannot see messages of the blocked people on the server channels.

@Chrysalis It's simple: bring the screenshots of the abusive content from Discord group, with Admins or Mods having an ability to join OPF chat in question to check logs - unless those are deleted. However, holding screenshots of the abusive message - along with username and the number - is not against Discord's TOS, should the message(s) be deleted.

So basically you want a character assassination gestapo made up of a staff team because people are kind of asses when the rules are dropped.

Literally just get over it. People are asses as a general rule of thumb, and enforcing rules harder just means they get better at being sly about it.

Should this be considered a good idea?

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[Karlotta]

Official factions shouldn't be held responsible for the bad behavior of some individual members, as long as they don't encourage negative behavior, and discourage it. Imposing overly strict punishments also encourages people to cover stuff up and be hypocrites. Kicking people out of factions that do try to positively influence their members will only leave kicked members with no one influencing them positively.

That being said, discord has become a place where more and more discussions take place, and almost everyone who plays is on discord, or at least told to go there. Not even having the official discovery discord moderated has resulted in people insulting everyone they want for the fun of it, and even posting materials that are illegal in some countries.

Some official faction channels also have turned into echo chambers where people spread peer pressure onto its members to hate on other members, and then ban those members the moment they show up or try to correct falsehoods that are being spread about them there.

So yeah, if you want to be official, you should probably follow some basic rules on what not to do, for the health of the community's sake.

But tbh I have little hope of anything positive happening in this respect, given who the people systematically spreading the hate are, and due to the fact that the staff have already stated that they're fine with it as long as it doesn't hit anyone they personally care for, even on the forum.

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[Chrysalis]

@Chrysalis It's simple: bring the screenshots of the abusive content from Discord group, with Admins or Mods having an ability to join OPF chat in question to check logs - unless those are deleted. However, holding screenshots of the abusive message - along with username and the number - is not against Discord's TOS, should the message(s) be deleted.

Screenshots of discord logs are easily fabricated. But let's omit that for a moment. First off, there's no cure for being an asshat. Let's say, hypothetically, I was this asshat. My first reaction to these measures wouldn't be to be on my best behavior, but instead to get really clever about dodging it. As, I assume, would be the reaction of most people who become aware that they're being monitored by a group of tattletales waiting to tell on them every time they slip. Maybe I would then move to another chat service with the rest of those people where we'd continue to merrily talk crap about you or whoever else is the target. Would we then be followed by the people who monitor and enforce these things? To how many platforms? Maybe they could also come to my house to check whether I'm on my best behavior and not talking crap there while they are at it. Ridiculous.

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[Karlotta]

To how many platforms?

Those that get the "official disco" stamp.

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[The Listener]

Imagine someone disliking faction. Joining it. Posting offensive stuff. Getting faction warned.

This has been already touched in the post above, but I will write it once more.

Official Faction would have two choices should Admins contact them for misbehaviour. One of them would be avoiding getting a warning by kicking out the player who behaves like an ass to others. Or, give that player the chance and allow him to redeem himself taking the warning onto entire Official Player Faction.

Both are harshly punivite if you think about it. Option A is total cut from the OPF - this one is simple. Option B is giving a chance, but if the player repeats the behaviour - he or she's likely out without any thought from the Leadership given they don't want any more warning on their own OPF.

In short, the wannabe troublemakers that "just joined" would be basically kicked out from the Official Player Faction, should they abuse the proposed system - cause they would hold no value to the Leadership AND won't give OPF the warning.