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[Lohingren]

ahem, zelot bud... this is completely different, in vanilla the Dragons USED Kusari navy guns. Daitos where not in the vanilla version the best dragon guns where katana's, your corsair guns where so this is a completely different issue here. go look at the blood dragon npc's please

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Reapers of Sirius Database

[Zelot]

Is there some particular balance issue that makes you want to use these so bad? What's the deal? Why are you so dead set against changing this? If there is a good reason fine, but the "it's sold on our base" argument is just not enough for me personaly.

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[Lohingren]

the fact that not everyone wants to use 8.33's being one? the fact its perfectly in RP since the perfect RP'd npc's use em for 2? the fact that blood dragons are KNF deserters and most likely know how to build them with ease for 3?

am i missing anything?

EDIT: oh yeah the fact that they where the widest used guns on the blood dragons side before they started the development of the daito's

oh yes and the fact that the disinfector isnt a kusari "navy" gun but a Kusari "Generic" gun

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Reapers of Sirius Database

[SilentAssassin82]

One good Reason. We kill KNF all the time. They can be looted very easy. 2 There were BD spys in Kusari. They could smuggle designs or even full crates of them im sure. Now there are a million RP reasons we could use them. Now our choices are slim. If we stuck to the BD class 9 guns our choice would be the Diatos. Now the gun states Kusari. Not the militery or the police. Are we not part of Kusari.

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[Exile]

It's not good enough for you personally, it is for the community/admins. If the admins disagree with me, Loh, and Silent, then by all means, post here or change the rules if possible. Untill then, NovaPG can use'm.

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[Zelot]

It's not good enough for you personally, it is for the community/admins. If the admins disagree with me, Loh, and Silent, then by all means, post here or change the rules if possible. Until then, NovaPG can use'm.

Your right it is not my decision it is the Community/Admins. I am a part of this community, so I though I was allowed to post my opinion here. That is what this thread if for, feedback on the issue, but I guess if all you wanted to do was post your faction proposal and have no one say anything about it then fine. I will not say anymore about, you do what you want, if and when the admins tell you to stop or not, great, but I'm not getting a vibe that you care at all what other members of the community say.

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[Exile]

First of, it aint even my faction. Nor am i part of it.
Secondly. Everyone is allowed to voice his opinion. Like Jinx did. But the way you voiced yours was abit hostile i might add. Thus, you recieved a hostile reply.

You reap what you sow.

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[Jinx]

try to look at what is expected from other factions.

order guns / turrets sold on rostock / capetown. - BHG has been sanctioned - and the BHG could also argue that "these guns are sold on their base" and "the BHG shoots down enough order to salvage those guns"

Why would a base sell guns that their faction aint allow to use?
Some of the Dragon NPC's have KNF guns too, believe it or not.

just regarding those weapons. - other than that, i see no prob... imo - it makes sense to use KNF guns - the BDs are not really enemies, but patroits - with deep roots in the kusari space... but from a point of view of the rules, - it must be clear.

this is just meant as a little update on how the official side stands towards that matter. - i think the weapon loadouts in the suggested form are OK. - but i do also agree that the inferno should be requested for each pilot individually, instead of taken for granted and simply purchased at leisure. ( which was already mentioned will most probably the case )

about the codenames - they are there, they can be used, i see no reason why the bombers should not mount 4 of them - if they pay for them.

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[BULLDOGNK]

Your right it is not my decision it is the Community/Admins. I am a part of this community, so I though I was allowed to post my opinion here. That is what this thread if for, feedback on the issue, but I guess if all you wanted to do was post your faction proposal and have no one say anything about it then fine. I will not say anymore about, you do what you want, if and when the admins tell you to stop or not, great, but I'm not getting a vibe that you care at all what other members of the community say.

Ouch and tutt tutt.

time for you to go in the chill out corner young man.

Cheers

[Zelot]

Isnt that just as bad as Order or Corsairs using Liberty guns just because they are sold on their base. It is considered OORP to use your enemies guns I think.

That is hostile?

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