To Bretonian factions and the Owner of Leeds Search & Rescue

[Paddy.]

I didn't know that GAI have ZOI in Bretonia and they can built a base in Leeds, but what's the purpose of this base anyway and how can it be good inrp for Bretonia? I'm just asking in terms of roleplay what's your next steps for this base in Bretonia?

GAI are not bound by ZOI. They are not nomads. And you were not around it seems when it was formed. Look up Daoine Saorise in the unofficial factions. Should tell you a lot. Totally stuffed now though, because Snak 3 destroyed the rephack... fact.

As far as the leader of the Daoine Saorise is concerned, I don't know her thoughts about the faction. As a result of the screw up of the Rephack, that Snak 3 chooses to sidestep, changed the whole game play. Totally killed the whole RP that Elyonn promoted. Totally destroyed any GAI RP style of play outside of agressive shoot everything dumb stuff.
What is worse the GM are idly letting this slide. I have to agree with Elyonn that the right, fair and kind thing would have been to change the rephack back to what it was for years and which allowed the AI factions to play as they intended. It is grossly unfair to destroy established RP simply on one persons whim.

As it stands it seems like the game may have lost two players over this issue. Three cheers for unwarranted and unwanted rephack changes! Reinforces that behind the game are sting-pullers who would have a go at a player if things are not what they think it should be. Disgusting attitude really.

[Groshyr]

I still don't understand what's the problem in swapping to FL ID/IFF, tbh

[Paddy.]

I still don't understand what's the problem in swapping to FL ID/IFF, tbh

Because it is AI and needs an AI ID. AI can have a really interesting RP which is why I signed up for the Daoine Saorise. Not your usually fight club. How else can you land on Planet Gammu, or fly their ships?

[Lythrilux]

I still don't understand what's the problem in swapping to FL ID/IFF, tbh

Because it is AI and needs an AI ID. AI can have a really interesting RP which is why I signed up for the Daoine Saorise. Not your usually fight club. How else can you land on Planet Gammu, or fly their ships?

It doesn't. Myself and many others have RP'd AI on Freelancer IDs. GAI is not AI. GAI is an alien race, not the traditional AI you are trying to RP. Pretty much why I think making GAI NPC only and then releasing a generic AI ID of sorts might be the way forward.

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[Gardarik]

I didn't know that GAI have ZOI in Bretonia and they can built a base in Leeds, but what's the purpose of this base anyway and how can it be good inrp for Bretonia? I'm just asking in terms of roleplay what's your next steps for this base in Bretonia?

GAI are not bound by ZOI. They are not nomads. And you were not around it seems when it was formed. Look up Daoine Saorise in the unofficial factions. Should tell you a lot. Totally stuffed now though, because Snak 3 destroyed the rephack... fact.

The ID reference disagrees with you.

[Paddy.]

The ID reference disagrees with you.

And if you would reveal the full ID reference, which you chose to not include it says

Within ZOI can attack any ship.

They also have no allies or enemies so that means they should be neutral like freelancers and Zoners and therefore can travel as they could before the rephacks were screwed up to satisfy someones bogus belief at what the GAI rephack should be like. That means they can and do rp POB's in Bretonia... because they can. Simple isn't it?


ALL the GM's have to do is revert the rephack back to what it had been for years before Snak 3 decided to distort it.

[Gardarik]

ZOI reflects not only the ooRP side which indicates where people can initiate fight and enforce inRP laws, but also inRP sphere of influence that indicates where most of the representatives of the faction are. inRP, for example, Outcasts are few and far between in Rheinland region while Corsairs - in Liberty. To construct a whole base is quite an assertion of influence, hence it is quite weird a faction would build a POB outside ZOI. Still, we decent RP everything is possible, I used to build POBs as Coalition in deepest of Omicrons as research outposts. This prompts another point - the RP around a POB. This POB seems to have minimal RP if any, similarly to GAI's RP in Bretonia. Moreover, there is no simple adequate RP take on GAI, which is another reason why people draw attention to this POB. Current attempts at roleplaying AI are too human-like and too far from actual AI whether it is a killerbot or an enigma beyond comprehension.

[Paddy.]

This prompts another point - the RP around a POB. This POB seems to have minimal RP if any, similarly to GAI's RP in Bretonia. Moreover, there is no simple adequate RP take on GAI, which is another reason why people draw attention to this POB. Current attempts at roleplaying AI are too human-like and too far from actual AI whether it is a killerbot or an enigma beyond comprehension.

There is tons of RP around that PoB. You may think that AI must conform to a certain type of behaviour... it doesn't. Good on Elyonn who thought through things, RP'd her vision of AI well and a lot of people think it original and refreshingly different.

[Lemon]

Sadly, with the recently processed requests from people that rarely even ever play the faction and classing them as aliens GMs mirrored the Nomad ID - and Gammu are now just nomads/aliens with different ships without Taus Zoi.

Very unimaginative development that ignored most of the existing active player base, but it is what it is...


The faction is dead I'd say besides of the occasional killer robot log - I'd suggest you change the IFF to freelancer and RP AI on that ID