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Offline Col_Lodden
11-03-2023, 01:18 AM,
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(11-03-2023, 01:07 AM)Sally Wrote:
(11-03-2023, 01:05 AM)Col_Lodden Wrote: Please present evidence for your reason, and if you can, then I think it only fair that you remove Corsair rights to all Hogosha ships, including the Raba too (reduction to a useless 10%), just as you have done with Hogosha access to Corsair ships. The Hogosha will otherwise be affronted by this insult from their Allies. What you are doing is to demean the relationship between the Hogosha and Corsairs, something I'm sure neither faction wants, unless you can provide evidence of of how you decided to make a judgement in this matter please? Please post all evidence of your consultations here for the sake of transparency in this matter,

Your initial answer "The Corsairs are incredibly stingy with their ships, combat ships especially" seems somewhat glib.

Thanks in advance for a robust and reasoned response from you.

Have you tried to RP btw?

Thank You Sally, please let Wildkins respond so that the conversation is clear.


Offline Haste
11-03-2023, 02:49 AM,
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(11-03-2023, 01:05 AM)Col_Lodden Wrote: Please present evidence for your reason

SHI 1800 Raba Hogosha Frigate Wrote:The Raba transport started life as a failed Corsair warship design. Initially produced as a prototype to phase out the venerable M26, it was too large and slow moving even for the Corsairs. To avoid the loss of all the invested credits, The Corsair Council contacted friendly groups and offered the prototype and the design copies for sale. The Hogosha were the only interested group, and the project went to them. Corsair engineers stripped the prototype of all its high tech equipment and installed a Samura power core provided by the Hogosha. The final result provides greatly enhanced cargo hold, crew amenities and grace of movement. Samura was not willing to build further numbers in their own shipyards to avoid more internal and external diplomatic complications so The Farmer's Alliance offered to produce the Raba at their shipyards at Cape Soya Station, in exchange for the permission to build a number for their own purposes. Today, the Raba is active among both the Hogosha and Farmer's Alliance fleets.

The Raba is a Corsair hand-me-down. The rest of their ships are not.

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Offline Wildkins
03-04-2024, 02:37 AM,
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Adjustments for next restart:
  • Technocracy and Auxesia:
    • + Rheinland Civilian
    • + Gallic Civilian/Engines
    • + Rheinland Blackmarket Ships and Weapons.
    • - Liberty Civilian
    • - Bretonia Civilian
Offline Tenshi Kuonji
03-04-2024, 06:05 AM,
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Personally dunno why "Auxesia" should get access to Rheinland or Gallic specially the "Engines" that for long time has been locked on only factions in Gallia, not others ... (since you needed to make the Blackmarket ones for such) ...
Dunno the "Coherence" in this change since according your own "words" there must be something that implies earning such access, like activity and roleplay, and no, they haven't done such ...

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Offline Lemon
03-04-2024, 08:09 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-04-2024, 08:18 AM by Lemon.)
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Edit: nvm, delete, why even bother.
Offline Voziloth
03-04-2024, 11:50 AM,
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(03-04-2024, 06:05 AM)Tenshi Kuonji Wrote: Dunno the "Coherence" in this change since according your own "words" there must be something that implies earning such access, like activity and roleplay, and no, they haven't done such ...

Tenshi the Technocracy of Auxo is not considered unlawful by both of these houses and they have prior roleplay with both.

For example with Gallia
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=190122
For Rhineland
Auxo is allied to BDM
And here is Rhineland telling Bretonia that the Technocracy isn't hostile to Rhineland https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...+Rhineland

On the other note Liberty and Bretonia tech was added to Auxo on stellar location not on there actual diplomacy.
Online Kauket
03-04-2024, 12:17 PM,
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(03-04-2024, 06:05 AM)Tenshi Kuonji Wrote: Personally dunno why "Auxesia" should get access to Rheinland or Gallic specially the "Engines" that for long time has been locked on only factions in Gallia, not others ... (since you needed to make the Blackmarket ones for such) ...
Dunno the "Coherence" in this change since according your own "words" there must be something that implies earning such access, like activity and roleplay, and no, they haven't done such ...

We had the cell before the changes but for some reason it was inverted. We have a tonne of stuff from BDM, GNI, and some from EFL before the Lemonocracy.

As for the engines, not sure how that's relevant when people get exactly the same in the form of blackmarket. Makes no difference.
Offline Chronicron
03-04-2024, 12:46 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-04-2024, 12:46 PM by Chronicron.)
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i'm still confused as to why the gallic engines still have their own techcell to begin with, since the engines are nothing more than cosmetic items anyway (at least as far as everything gunboat and below is concerned)

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Offline Darius
03-04-2024, 12:53 PM,
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Hey, I've been meaning to ask; why do the 3 (or at least Kusari and Rheinland) Wild groups not have access to Sirius Civilian techcell? It severely limits what we can do in terms of using liners for example and it also leaves us out of quite a few shippies. Don't take this as some grand suggestion though, the ID is more or less perfect as is.
Offline Wildkins
03-04-2024, 01:21 PM,
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(03-04-2024, 12:53 PM)Darius Wrote: Hey, I've been meaning to ask; why do the 3 (or at least Kusari and Rheinland) Wild groups not have access to Sirius Civilian techcell? It severely limits what we can do in terms of using liners for example and it also leaves us out of quite a few shippies. Don't take this as some grand suggestion though, the ID is more or less perfect as is.

Are you basing that off of the techcompat table? There's a bug with universally granted techcells (Sirius Civilian being one of them) that they show up as red when, in reality, everything except Nomads and pure-Gallic factions get access to them.
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