ADMIN Base help ASAP

[TheKusari]

Seems a green is needed here.

Before this gets out of hand, I'd like to point out what has already been said. But in a different colour.

Once the mod updates, you can request to have your base relocated (if the system was subjected to changes), see HERE. It is the Player-Owned Base owner's responsibility to submit any request after such a change. The staff are not in charge of following up on all bases. If the owner fails to do so, and their base has now been the target of a siege, that opportunity for relocation has been temporarily voided until the siege gets resolved.

I choose those specific words, because you can try to request it if your base survives the siege, but be warned that your chances are much smaller due to the time gap. If you have had a team or friends to supply the base since the patch, and had noticed a hostile NPC base within scanner range of your base and made no request... well, I don't have much more to add.

As I said, it's the base owner's responsibility.

Hope your base survives. Good luck.

We will be monitoring the thread, if it goes downhill further, we will lock it down. You have been warned.

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[Lemon]

OORP - Admins Moved the Unlawful Base in the last update to close to my base. not my base moved to close to yours. can I get Time to have ADMINs move it?

It is only fair since I did not cause this problem, I have had my base for at least 5-6 Years and always help Unlawful and lawful corporations pretty Much Equally. CORPs have to pay for it, But I donate Free loads to Unlawful to help them in there difficult times . on a fairly recent time as a way to help out.

Requesting to have a Peaceful option opened up for Discussion if you would be so kind. and see if we can find some way to work together

Swiftwing...

Since you posted your ooRP post in an RP thread, I'm going to respond to it here, @SwiftWing. Many people have tried to explain this to you before, and it seems it's been fruitless, but I am going to try again.

Discovery is what is known as a "roleplaying community", which means that we play the parts of characters (as in a story, like a novel or a film), rather than simply acting as players in a game. This is not a game like Planetside, or Helldivers, or Team Fortress 2, or Starcraft, or League of Legends, wherein the entire conceit of the game is that the ingame universe exists solely to facilitate the mechanics of the game. Rather, the conceit of Discovery is that the game mechanics exist to allow us to roleplay.

In essence, roleplay means acting within the universe, and attempting to simulate the behavior of a real living human, just in a world that is different from the one we live in in real life. It's somewhere between acting and writing. It is a fundamentally collaborative endeavour in that we are all telling stories.

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Unfortunately, because it is in fact still a game, there are certain limitations placed on how we interact with the universe. If, in the course of mod development, our star systems need to be changed for lore reasons or gameplay balance reasons, in order to keep the game fun to play so that we're all encouraged to continue writing our stories and playing the game and living these roles together, we as players have to adapt to that, and with an unspoken nod of mutual understanding, adapt our stories and the ways we play the game to these new changes. This is how we maintain our kayfabe, our sense of immersion, by suspending our disbelief at the ways we have to adapt our roleplay.

You have been affected by (I refuse to say "been a victim of") this exact sort of mod change. You have had many options to deal with this, as mod changes detrimentally affecting POBs and their owners is something that the staff team has long been very understanding of and thus provided free POB relocations for.

It was not only your responsibility, but your obligation to pursue these options, so that your player-owned base could continue to operate in a way which made sense within the lore of the game world -- in this case, specifically with the dynamics of Sigma-15. You failed to do this out of laziness and a lack of consideration for (or understanding of) the roleplay environment. Now you are suffering the consequences of your lack of attentiveness.

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This is not unfair, and this should not have been unexpected. Regardless of your free aluminum (a practice of yours I've never personally observed or heard mentioned), you have to understand that a group of politically-minded, anti-corporate, anti-government terrorists such as the Bundschuh would not take kindly to a Daumann installation right outside of their own base. Yes, your base was at those exact coordinates first, but you seem to think the exact coordinates matter when what really matters is how that coordinate position relates to the other objects in the system. Again, you had ample opportunity to address this matter.

The Platform siege of your base is not intended to grief you or victimize you or drive you off the server. It is us, the Platformers, playing out the role of our characters within the roleplay universe. If anything, your lack of ability or willingness to respond in kind is functionally griefing us (as well as the rest of the server, which only ever benefits from more roleplay interactions), which is why the siege of your base will progress as stated within the roleplay thread and the rules-mandated ooRP siege declaration post.

I would suggest that, if you don't intend to attempt defending the base, you instead get a load of 5ks (which I know you have) and grab everything useful off of your base so that you can cut your losses as a player. I would further suggest that the next time you attempt to build a base, you do so with some consideration for the roleplay environment in mind, and monitor said environment as well as any relevant mod changes so that you can interact with other players in a way that is healthy according to the intents and fundamental concepts of what this community is supposed to be.

I sincerely hope this post helps you out in some way.

Are the the siege and minimal roleplays really the most creative and in character Bundshuh roleplay response of towing a Bundie base to dangerous vicinity of a mining station you guys could come up with?

That seems very lazy for political activists no, when roleplay is your primary goal?

[Lord Caedus]

Are the the siege and minimal roleplays really the most creative and in character Bundshuh roleplay response of towing a Bundie base to dangerous vicinity of a mining station you guys could come up with?

That seems very lazy for political activists no, when roleplay is your primary goal?

Are you legitimately trying to explain a system rework as an inRP action carried out by a single NPC group.

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[Kauket]

use bundschuh feedback for this lemon

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[Lemon]

That's the point Petitioner was making no? (Point they make in this thread mind you) That they react in rp to the game world, so their hands are tied and they got to minimal RP siege? I see a lot of RP options here for them of how to play it out better - AND they could lead to some compromise with the owner - I don't know why people pretend that in effect/1/2 a base has anything to do with being good roleplay, especially with a faction like the bundies

[Lord Caedus]

That's the point Petitioner was making no? (Point they make in this thread mind you) That they react in rp to the game world, so their hands are tied and they got to minimal RP siege? I see a lot of RP options here for them of how to play it out better

Would [FLG] give a GMS installation built 9.5k away from one of their bases an option to peacefully coexist? Said GMS which directly supports the new Gallic government that they are directly opposed to?

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[Xenon]

Hi @SwiftWing,

Instead of all this big thread of 3 pages so far lol...

You could have just sent a message to an admin explaining that an NPC base has been added 10k away from your POB which is a change happening because of mod/system development... Then you could have received your free relocation, which would have helped your case much...

I don't know why this thread exists...?, I tried to help you but you insisted on your ways, so I have nothing to do but eat that popcorn and read this pointless thread lol...

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[Capt.RedLegs]

And so an Admin has also added derision, signalling that the conveying of dissenting views is not welcome and it's time to STFU or else.

[Nodoka Hanamura]

Going to add my two cents here.

This is a roleplay community. Regardless of certain people's desire to wish it were not so, or less so, that is what it is, and that is likely what it will be, until whoever keeps paying the bills to keep the lights on, stops doing so.

By participating in this community, you agree to a social contract, as one does with any community. by failing to adhere to that social contract, you open yourself up to, at best, ridicule, and at worst, outright hostility. SwiftWing has decided not to participate in any meaningful capacity, even at a bare minimum, in the roleplay environment. He also has failed to, when he has had several months to remedy this issue pre-emptively, not done so.

If Ouroboros put a POB in front of Planet New Tokyo, I'm certain Werdackel and pals would not like that and would proceed to blast it to kingdom come. By failing to take advantage of moving the POB following the 5.1 update - or calling for help from local authorities, Swiftwing has done the exact same thing as in that hypothetical - a complete disregard for the situation at hand, and as such, it should not be surprising that his failure to adhere to the social contract is reciprocated by Platform in the form of a Siege Declaration.

I can sympathize with his impending loss of all his hard work. What I cannot, is when he has been given a persistent opportunity to cure this issue, either ooRP or inRP, that he only now tries to do something at the 11th hour, when all options are now null and void.

He made his bed. He should pack it up and go elsewhere with his PoB once it's gone.

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[Petitioner]

And so an Admin has also added derision, signalling that the conveying of dissenting views is not welcome and it's time to STFU or else.

What aspect of TheKusari's response felt derisive to you? Can you point to a specific phrase?

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