ADMIN Base help ASAP

[jammi]

I'd hazard a guess that many of these issues could also be dealt with by roleplaying rather than immediately making threads like these in the OORP areas of the forum. Negotiate with the Bundschuh, or follow Tenshi's advice and rally Rheinland lawfuls. Make sure your siege vuln window is set to a time that's convenient for the [RM] and I honestly can't see a situation where it's actually possible for this siege to be successful.

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[EisenSeele]

Guys, let's just remember the following:
This is a game of consequences and player choice - sometimes you can play your way out of consequences and sometimes you can't. In this case, it looks like there definitely were things that could have been done differently to avoid getting sieged.

Also remember that you're all players in a game, and POBs are a huge investment of real time and effort - you don't have to baby people, but empathy is always called for.

Let's try to be civil and keep the schadenfreude to a minimum

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[The Hidden Palace]

I came to get a insight on you, as I suffered same situation ...
Let me ... write an story where i really hope you understand what happened in here ...

Because what is happening to you already happened to me time ago ...

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I was the proud Owner of an PoB Base called "The Hidden Palace" as you may be aware if you have read some of my posts here and there and so ...

Let me explain ...

I have the mighty and smart idea of setting up an installation in Zurich (because i find the system pretty cute) ... My idea was as name resembles, make it "Hidden" ... so i choosed a vectorized in the Vaud Cloud, looking no Nommies are in there, well ... it remain actually hidden, only known by some people (maybe others saw it exist but not much to be said in here)

Thing is for this character i am playing as a Researcher, Scientist and a people of an University, the Galla or Gallic University as i just named it ...

It was a time when the even on the Kaiser visiting Gallia when the Wilds due the near approximate of the base saw that base, and then from it commence the issues ...

I received a message i let you in here MESSAGE where the "Wild" or GNI asked for me for 2 options, open my base to them or leave it thorn appart ...

I was bravery and consise so ... i have push all the information i got from that time ... it was a risky thing, so ...

I got offered to calm down the things as long as i permit "secondary management" on my base, by that time i used my base and opened to all my ships cause it was actually my personal hideout and was to interchange weapons and equipment on all my ships (yes, i even make any capital ship Nano and Me posess to get into Zurich, swapped guns and leave the system as nothing happened) i have been cheated before so i was worried my precious small amount of codeguns and rare items dissolve just because a greedy person takes them all (and i have set those things at 1 SC)

I prefered to fight them, even if alone and @Ice Princess would not let me lie, she known who was me, and my options out there, we talked we play it, and we let continue, at some point, i really (unexpectedly) got Reinforcements, it was not only Nanosinx and Me alone a whole group it was a bunch of Gallic Navy players, willing to defend, at a later time, even Royalist Bombers entered the Frey, i even send any possible ship i could gather from my accounts to hold them, even send an Order Upholder to bring hell on them (as those were Wild)
I was decided to fight the siegers even if alone (I have some videos of this, and even till the siege timer lasted)
Where i wanna you take in?
You have plenty of options, play as your BASE OWNER try save everything you can, or use that time to bring you time in buy 5Kers and Unload everything on the base...
I did that, while we RP on the message, i know i have already on the lose due being initially 1 or 2 players against a whole bunch of ships

The error of Ice Princess was simple ... Pushing it as a Wild attack instead of GNI, so no Destroyers, only Gunboats ...

They sieged, sieged hard, i even Stream the siege of my own base ...
They attacked my AI Vessel and my GNI Bomber ...

I try to defend or at least distract, earn some time, i don't expected any help arrive from anyone to be seriously

They even said it was at that time nearly impossible siege on my base due reinforcements and annoying players don't let them siege in peace ... but ...
I stepped in and internally (in Discord) started to get an agreement ...

We stop this, let me unload all my base items, and the base will be left to die ...

I did RP as how i belive my character should be suited ... and with other RP posts we announce the disabling of the base (abandon it)
Abandoning the Base

Eventually the base was not longer Sieged (I even was there so not gonna let anyone shoot at my base making sure they comply with the agreement ...

I was offered help when i rebuilt my base if i get attacked, and some other things ...

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Sure, the story is pretty long ...
Where i wanna came in?

You had many time and possibilities, still i saw your answer to the letter of the Platform (=) actually Bundschuch and you dare answer OORP telling is all cause Admins and so?

Horrible path to follow!

I am gonna tell you something and please get head on this ...

Do RP as your Character, know you lost this time, pack everything while you can and rebuilt a base in Sigmas away from enemy NPC's bases, if the system change again, then i am sure Admins will come to help you as long the siege is not underway, even if needed i would be gladly help you with rebuilt your base, but don't cry to daddy admins when this happened to you, even @Xenon suffered it, even Me suffered it, even lot of people suffered it (Or should i tell you in Rheinland there were like 5 PoBs of Hessian Party and all of them were sieged? ha ha)

That is why they contact you before doing the siege, but if you are not caring it, then when you post in here for help it was too late ... the time was over, and it should be done when the update launches, even they stopped siege till all this sort this out, and you cannot tell me you don't see because for damn god sake, It appear red in your Radar just by popping out!
People here give you options, but if you don't wanna head up, and do it again not even a GOD would be able to help you ... in the end i became friend of my attackers, and we sorted that out in a fashionable way

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ONE MORE THING, ADMINS, DEVS AND OTHERS DOES NOT EXIST IN RP ON THE GAME, THEY ARE FULLY OORP, SO MENTION THEM IN AN RP IS LIKE MENTIONING SOMEONE NOT EXIST IN WHOLE RP, THEY MERELY EXIST TO BRING THE RULES AND ADMINISTRATE THE SERVER GAME

Get a good night

[A Magpie]

Bases aren't even that good of an investment for a solo player lol. All the resources you sank into refining HRCs could have been spent buying the HRCs and moving them, and you'd have made more money.

Opportunity cost is the killer of refinery base profitability.

To get your HRC "free of charge" for a single 5ker trip, you have to mine the ore (Let's assume 2 runs on a 5ker, or a single one on a Hegemon takes 10 minutes, this is pure travel time, so 600.), and then you have to pay for fuel. Let's assume you got it from Freeport 8, 28 credits/unit of MOX, needing 23,8k worth of MOX to make your 5ker's worth of Aluminium, needing 1700, so divide the travel time by 3 for your 5ker (240/3). Then there's more travel time. Industrial Materials at 22 per unit, needing 765, so divide travel time by six, from Frankfurt to need only 9 cycles of the base refining instead of 10 is another ~10 minute run. (600/6)

This is already thirteen whole minutes added to a run, in what is already around a half-hour trade route. This isn't taking into account the time the base takes to eat the materials to make your Aluminium (it consumes ~50 of every mat every 20 seconds, so that's up to 50 minutes you're waiting for the "free" ore, assuming you mined it yourself, to refine).

This averages out to you needing to do about an hour of work to get half an hour's worth of trading. This isn't even taking into account the cost, in materials and opportunity, of building the modules and upkeeping the base and its crew.

[SwiftWing]

Was trying to read all this, and got a call to go right back to work, I hardly have any time to rest. this is why I'm in this Fix, Life is hitting me extremely hard, I do good some times to get rest at all, some times 16-20 hours shifts . Like I had said insane work hours cause we are short staffed for Drivers. This is why I'm in this Pickle. not that I don't care or want to do things ingame. I just don't have much time for anything.

Sorry Guys I will try to read this stuff when I get back from work, maybe 1-5 am or some where there abouts at least...

Swift...

[Kanzler Niemann]

Just another "I have ignored the RP letters thrown into my yard by the people from the internet and now my base is being sieged OORP thread". Very amusing.

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[L1ght]

Guys, let's just remember the following:
This is a game of consequences and player choice - sometimes you can play your way out of consequences and sometimes you can't. In this case, it looks like there definitely were things that could have been done differently to avoid getting sieged.

Also remember that you're all players in a game, and POBs are a huge investment of real time and effort - you don't have to baby people, but empathy is always called for.

Let's try to be civil and keep the schadenfreude to a minimum

Wrong color noob!

As far as the PoB goes, make a case for yourself file in a PR if you feel you've been wronged. Posts like this usually do the opposite of help.

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[James Greed]

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Greedback

[drhooligan]

I member berry this one time I had a little clan called TBL, Thieves By Law. Over on another server... We tortured LDF forces. Ransacked their bases. Such good fun. Best was when Oracle. YES, that Oracle *shout*, got plastered and took his little bomber to LDF's main miing base, camped it, killed all their caps and the base.

[Capt.RedLegs]

What aspect of TheKusari's response felt derisive to you? Can you point to a specific phrase?

I was speaking of your post, thinking you were an Admin. If I was incorrect, I apologize.
I haven't kept up with the musical chairs effect therein of late.

I would never talk poorly of TheKusari, and would automatically take any input from him at 2x value over anyone/everyone else.

1. He is THE #1 good guy on this server,
   
2. He wouldn't speak that way to anyone in the first place.