Quote://tenacity i'll assume you might not want to engage in the creation of this party, so if at all possible i'd like to borrow a few things as i believe you already have shown me the way to your post..
Boy, what makes you think I wouldnt be a part of anything the junkers do?
I suggest you play an independent junker for a good long while here, until you have a -very- solid understanding of how junkers operate.
My main character here, from the time I started playing the disco mod until the day I quit, was a junker. I spent a good two to three months learning about them, smoothing out things with the congress, and investigating junker bases for rumors and info before I even considered trying to create the Junker's Union.
At this point in time, I'd appreciate if you did not use the same name, as I do intend to come back eventually - More or less I'm waiting on the next version of discovery to be released so I can work around whatever new ships and content are being added.
Have a little patience. I'd welcome your help in starting the union later on, but right now it's staying on hold. Culebra has already offered a great deal of assistance with it as well and as far as I know still wants to make it a realized faction.
Smugglers, Slavers? Those are personal choices with their own consequences. Every man must reap what he sows and determine for himself if he is just and right.
No Junker advocates, "Be criminals!" Some simply do. It is their choice.
We do not stand in judgment over them--the laws of the places we live will do that. Junkers do not need a body of other Junkers to take their wealth their freedom or to force behavior from them.
Our goal is to provide opportunity for Junkers to all have a chance to live and succeed. What they do with that opportunity is their choice.
If Junkers truly want a "government" with laws and orders telling them what to do and deciding what they can own and how much it is worth and where they can and can't go, they can simply become citizens in the house worlds and live on their planets and bases--many already do so.
We do not advocate crime but we command no Junker. Congressmen are volunteers with the freedom to leave at any time. We ask nothing of the rest of Junkers and we take nothing from them that we do not return.
Tenacity -Answers and Corrections~1- I have been playing a junker for 7-8 months now
~2-, I'm not creating a Junkers Union name, this is a Party/ forefront of the many unions however I believe tinkerbell is attempting to continue to hold his control over the congress and many junkers and is showing me he is willing to fight to keep this on the ground.
Tinkerbell -Answers and Corrections~1- You are head of a guards party, why would a Workers party have an army at all? do the labourers and many men and women of the scrap fields and business operations look like soldiers to you? I thought you were the militaristic party, well i must have misunderstood your wording towards the rest of the community.
~2- We are not creating social classes, we are creating a stable base ground for business and luxury that is able to be reached by all, not just a select few, like you seem to think should control all the power, AKA the Junkers Guards Party, no offense intended.
~3-I have not once seen you help the poor, infact one of the Guards party members infact shot down a Collector (CSV II) The other day trying to ask for a few credits to repair his ship...Makes me wonder what your really up to.
~4- I am really trying to make this work for the community, and try and make even with a person such as yourself, however you seem to reiterate all your points over and over again, however they seem to be corrected in most of my communications.
Cesar, if you are directing this towards my brothers nephew, by all means i am willing to make this...ship appear. Just contact me over private communications.
Note that I've added links in my signature to a couple things that might help you out concerning Junker RP - the omega 15 and junker operations manual links.
Quote:~2-, I'm not creating a Junkers Union name, this is a Party/ forefront of the many unions however I believe tinkerbell is attempting to continue to hold his control over the congress and many junkers and is showing me he is willing to fight to keep this on the ground.
That is not at all what he's doing. Tinkerbell is not in any way against the formation of other junker factions, and that's the point he is trying to get across.
Most factions want to "control the whole group" and not allow other factions of the same affiliation (i.e. the rheinland military) - The junker's congress has always been portrayed as one of many junker groups in existence.
My Union will hopefully become one of the other more noticed groups, but like I said I dont plan on taking it official until 4.85, or even attempting to do so until then.
//i am making points as a member of any political faction would make to twist others words...i'm not entirely an idiot, i understand where your coming from.
//Errr... you are taking this to personally and reading into what i said. Also beginning to border on "not nice".
//I'm not (personally) "against" your idea. I am unaware of a tagged character shooting a Junker--that's an absolute no-no and you should have pmed me. Guess it wasn;'t worth mentioning until you needed something.
//All my comments (but the reponse to Old Steel's reply which was not directed at you in any way) are "in-character". Please read them that way.
//I'm all for any Junker faction and am not trying to stop anyone from doing what they want to do.
These units detect Junker comms. These units hear Junker parts interfaceing. These units find Junker parts beneficial and have defined Junker units as symbiot bio forms.
This unit is attempting to define new Junker entity. Will the new Junker entity continue symbiosis?
These units provide our combat, construction, processing and technological capabilities to the Junker units for docking facilities to power down and process parts.
These units will defend non hostile Junker parts. The Junker congress entity acknowledges these units as aware. Will the Worker's party entity acknowledge these units? Will the infant part continue to permit these units to harvest inorganic materials and hostile organic over Junker stations?
Here's an idea: just form a Junker "family" so to say. Not a political group, but rather a tight knit group looking out for it's own. A good way to start I would figure.
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