' Wrote:As far as i know Zoners fail at mining... they cant dock lawful bases in house .. and there is where most ores are sold... unless you dock while no one is watching..
Anyway ... even if field seems to be closed?
You need Zoner guard ID for Whale.. so.. never mind.
' Wrote:Anyway ... even if field seems to be closed?
You need Zoner guard ID for Whale.. so.. never mind.
Here from the Wiki on the Zoner Guard ID... I highlighted the important part.
Cannot dock on any stations/planets/bases in lawful House space except:
Independent Miners Guild (IMG) Bases, Gas Miners Guild (GMG) Bases, Council Bases, Zoner Bases, Planet Erie
' Wrote:Omega 7 has 3 ores in it. But it also has a certain Wilde GB that hangs around and makes miners rather upset.
Yeah, I know. Part of the problem was just that it was Pennsylvania. The starting system, full of people, no one ever left it... At least Omega 7 is out there and a bit more dangerous.
' Wrote:Zoner Guards can't dock on lawful house bases, if I remember correctly. Plain old Zoners can.
And even though Pennsylvania is part Zoner-system, I do agree that they should probably move their mining operations farther out. Even then, it probably shouldn't be anything too big, since Zoners aren't a major mining corporation or anything like one. But that's all up to the faction, I suppose.
1. we rarely mined silver and if so we purchased and resold it more often using bethlehem station as a mooring point you know that zoner base in liberty
2. we are not power gaming if we where we would be using bmm or dse ships for such ores and transporting them with 4800-5k transports
3. yes zg can't dock on house bases thusly they are not bwt can how ever with a zoner id and are our primary transport.
4. We welcome this advice and will prolly move our operations outward. As for now we had few options and where not looking to be able to use our whales to power mine.
5. I agree that zoners are not miners they where deepspace explorers but have power through there wealth
and bases in house systems even in the borders of house systems.
6. Our base is an hq ship over shasta station with permission from the taz. But by no means does this say a group can not mine here nor there if it would ease minds with the few flamers we get next to no benefit for mining and we get 3600 transports its kinda defeating the purpose of power mining.
7. We prefer to buy silver not mine it and seeing as its gone we are gonna go to what we know best research and developing new areas.
8. Zoners from what i read invested heavily in deep space exploration and made there wealth the same wealth that gained them respect. Is it to unreasonable to believe that zoner's could be business men and woman?
But i agree the three of us will take this into consideration and re-evaluate it and see how to move forward. We ceo's of ZoE feel it necessary to hear all ideas and give them atleast consideration and discussion.
Edit: this is a great idea we will work on finding a more out of system locations thanks for the suggestion and no we are not mad at you we like to hear new ideas.
Other Rp companies of sort...kinda have been using that as their bread and butter!
I'm not changing my ZMC RP just so I can mine ores down in the Omegas
Screw the Omegas. SMC are covering the Omegas. Problem with the Omegas is now all the LULWUTS Outcast gunships will go out there...and wander...epically. Too today when I was in penn I WAS attempting to RP with new players but certain peoples OCC was interrupting RUDELY! 5% time people. How are we suppose to enforce the basics of Rping rules when those who set them don't follow?
If you want to see what bs it is to mine low yield ores sit in a fricken mining ship doing platinum again 5% i'm talking to right now. STOP CHANGING THE STUPID MINING AROUND. If you didn't want this drama then you shouldn't have changed it in begin with.
If Zoners want to have contracts with Mining Company THAT IS THEIR OWN BUSINESS! Zoners are the hand that feeds! You don't cut the hand, or it will smack you!
Yes overall this is a selfish rant.
Don't give a care to see it any other way.
edit:
Does anyone know why ZMC got a such a Contract from a zoner and Kishiro company? I SOLD THE ORE FOR 842 PER UNIT!!! Everyone was happy with that amount!!!! SOOOO why not return it to its original price and up the yields eh?
edit 2: and to be a arse,
[12/9/2009 7:31:15 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: the 842 per ore is a political number
[12/9/2009 7:31:32 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: to rebel against the changes to the mining system
[12/9/2009 7:31:37 PM] |ZoE| Lori Silversmith: how about we go atleast 1k each thats only fair
[12/9/2009 7:32:11 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: Kishiro said the same, but 842 was the max amount you got for silver in 4.84
[12/9/2009 7:32:22 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: When i started this company
[12/9/2009 7:32:26 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: nearly 2 years ago
[12/9/2009 7:32:37 PM] |ZoE| Lori Silversmith: i see so its a personal view
[12/9/2009 7:32:42 PM] |ZoE| Lori Silversmith: i can agree with that then
[12/9/2009 7:32:43 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: yep.
[12/9/2009 7:32:46 PM] |ZoE| Lori Silversmith: though i feel guilty
[12/9/2009 7:32:49 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: Nah
[12/9/2009 7:32:54 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: when i need money
[12/9/2009 7:32:59 PM] |ZoE| Lori Silversmith: how much can you supply on the daily
[12/9/2009 7:33:56 PM] |ZoE| Lori Silversmith: or weekly if that makes it easier
[12/9/2009 7:34:17 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: I mine and ship a 2k transport myself, Well, with yours i can do 2 loads a day on my own. 5k are more like one on my own. The problem is that my miners are few I had to fire some for giving out our locations to pirates.
[12/9/2009 7:34:57 PM] Daniel - Zigeris: Weekly would be easier
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