[Zoners]Clan Request

[Terk]

Omg man No offence either ....

Ive said allready we are working on new request more organized i just wanted see how ppl would react to have a general idea .

[Manni]

I can see epic fail written all over this...

<enters flame retardent suit and grabs extinguisher>

Ok, a faction request should be written with much better grammer, have a lot more time spent on it, plus have a logical use in the Fl universe.

No offence, but thumbs down. TAZ is all I need.

The RP has to be in game, not only to be only in forums. The forum is just an information about the factions.
We will work on it.
And your argument....."grammar" is just crap, not everybody's native language is english, so relax, dude.
We are here to have fun and help.

EDIT:
DO you understand this english? If yes, then it's fine enough. perfet english is not recquired on this server, only english which you can understand and roleplay with.

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[Terk]

Indeed Colonia ;... I'm from Brasil my native langague is Portuguese .
I said allready sorry about my grammar mistakes .
Colonia u might want join us right now on the server.
:D
Hope to see you in space

[Manni]

Yea i would like to join and help you guys.
*getting up my eagle*

Everybody who want to help is welcome, of course.

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[greendragon]

We need traders online for hours to make the money we need. It's not the most expensive thing, only 500mil. 100mil is piece of cake, we need 4 men and we'll just make it within hours. Easy money, prepare for other Zoner's intriques if they would hear about our plan.

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[Terk]

The new request is posted

PLEASE HAVE A LOOK NOW !

[Bjorn]

Hmmm. That sir, is not a request but statement.

Also, barging in like this and taking [Zoner] as tag and trying to round up all zoners in your clan/guild/faction/whatever is rather rude. Rather try to make zoner sub-group like JG or TG.

Oh, also I really do not see point in you using Order high tech fighters when you are pacifistic traders.


P. S.
Oh, and try to use regular english on forums instead of shortened version, because it is more easy to understand it that way.

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[Terk]

omg u guys are never satisfect????? man this wil be i wil remove the order things and WE ALLREADY HAS SUB HROUP FOR GOD SAKES .....asking for too much

[greendragon]

Oh, also I really do not see point in you using Order high tech fighters when you are pacifistic traders.

Pacifism is that someone wants to end all wars. We, Zoners aren't interested in other's wars unless if they do it on our ground. Me, the Praefectus Judicator of the Excubiae Caliginis will use force if I need to protect our own. Not all of us from offices and factories, some of us have military and pirate pasts... some of us would never forget. We aren't harmless traders, some of us would rather drop the hammer on you //not exactly you// than to stand by and obey. This is why we left the Houses among other reasons: we are free here, and if someone threaten us, we will fight, sometimes merciless... I'm among these, but we're a minoritiy: most of the Zoners are really harmless people. We, the minority would rather watch too than to drag ourselves into open wars, so don't worry, we only fight when others attack us.

But i agree, we don't need Order weaponry, they aren't our masters, we have no masters.

yours sincerely,
Praefectus Judicator of the Excubiae Caliginis



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[Jinx]

the primary question is - why would the zoners gather and form up a group. - zoners as such ARE a group, but not by their own definition, but by their way of life and by definition of others. it is some sort of a paradoxon to think of zoners and playerfaction. - a unified "idea" is what defines a zoner and ties him to other zoners. - but along with that idea of freedom comes the urge to be independent ( and for the first time, the word "independent" might be used in a way its intended to be used - and not as a non-playerfaction player that is at no accounts independent when he joined a NPC faction - but this time, its meant in a way that a zoner really wants to be less dependent on the ideas of the core systems )

now - what happens when the zoners form up a playerfaction. - they become what the core system is.... a community with ranks, with personal limitations. - what sets them apart from - lets say.... the GMG then.

i think that zoners organize on a level of stations and influence. - zoners are highly interested in other peoples affairs. - they go along a great efford to ensure that the wars that rage are not likely to end too soon - and in this manner, they are indeed ... neutral. they do not favour any side, - but they favour the side that could loose. - they might strengthen this side to make sure that the war can go on.

the only exception are the nomads that are ( ideally ) no ones allies and as such, not to be influenced by foreign politics and intrigues. - politics and intriguing is what the zoners do though - and as they get no grip on the nomads, they cannot control them, which leads to a vacuum of control - which then sets the nomads to be the only hostile faction ( along with their minions ).

now - what happens when zoners form up and organize.

forming up like that is almost equal to stepping out of the shadow into the spotlight. - the greatest weapon of the zoners is that they do have influence, but no one will really be able to determine how and how much they influence others. - they are in the background, and make others execute ideas that those others believe to be their own ideas. - even if they are not, but just whispered suggestions.

by exposing oneself though, - one becomes the actor oneself, instead the prompter. such a situation is dangerous and detrimental for the zoners way. - now we do have a zoner faction - the TAZ. but they do not claim to be THE zoners, but rather a group of zoners that follow some specific ideals - they are but a minority, influencial, but by no means representative.

the most organized institution that exists that is beneficial when it comes to being tightly organized is the zoner council - which happens to be "nothing but a forum for independent zoners" - one zoner, one voice.

now - as a player.... i believe that a faction of zoners claiming to be THE zoners will cause more trouble than is in any way beneficial for the NPC faction. - the AW tried to be a zoner based group... and ended up torn and criticized to be no zoners at all. discussion, subtlety and indirect steering is what zoners do - treats that are hard to accomplish in a game like freelancer which - after all - still focusses on good old dogfights to finally solve a matter.

so the question is:

what good will a faction do for the zoner faction ( NPC faction ) - how do you actually support the idea of zoners?
why do you require a playerfaction organization for it - why can you not do it as a group of non-factionized players. - what does the power that is associated with a playerfaction do to support your ideal and what are the dangers that might endanger it.
and finally - if you are RPing semi pacifistst that love to manipulate others on a political level - will there be a "long term motivation" to keep the faction running? or would it rather be only event based. - in other words... is it worth making a faction for it at all.

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