Piracy in Disco

[Elvin]

Dont forget, that there are even "good" pirates. But you have "defined" the "bad" guys pretty well. Problem is that a lot of people get a gunboat, some pirate ID and go all like "Now I'll make A LOT of money wohooo" and it ends up with "5mio r u die". Well, what is there to say, just kill (mataphor) them all.

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I buy things I don't want to make an impression on people I don't like.

[Grumblesaur]

You bring up excellent points. I don't particularly like being stopped in the asteroid field between New Berlin and Brandenburg. I get antsy there with the 3-8 Wilde fighters flying about. When I pirate stops me there, it's like saying, "Even if you pay me, you'll blow up." It's disrespect to the trader and abuse of the game.

Another thing: when pirates stop you and all they do is demand money and threaten to kill you, they clearly want to blow you up. If the pirate RPs with you, that's when they're deserving of a bit of cash.

Of course, this is my opinion. I don't know if anyone shares it.

Pin this thing.

Dont forget, that there are even "good" pirates. But you have "defined" the "bad" guys pretty well. Problem is that a lot of people get a gunboat, some pirate ID and go all like "Now I'll make A LOT of money wohooo" and it ends up with "5mio r u die". Well, what is there to say, just kill (mataphor) them all.

They don't understand that they can make more money trading or smuggling.

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A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.

[Primus Avatar]

They don't understand that they can make more money trading or smuggling.

I'll say this as an experienced pirate: Its because we want to piss off some diamond/niobuim Adv.Train powertraders.

read Xorias post (the part where he explains piracy and insurance companies, it really makes sense.)
its below no.14.

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wassup

[zeinstruktor]

The first group are the base pirates. These pirates sit at a base, usually with an ID hostile to the faction of the base. This isn't nessessarily a bad thing, but often times these pirates won't be hostile to the base they are sitting at. An example of this would be an Outcast sitting 300m from Gas Miner Naha and not be getting shot. NPCs hostile to the base do not demand cargo from any player passing through this area, they are too busy raiding it. Those friendly to the bases sometimes do, but I suspect this is due to the restrictions of the system. This is proven by the lore surrounding freeports. You don't fight at freeports for a reason. Sure it is easy to ignore NPC guns, but at least pretend you have respect for them, or get them firing on you. Piracy around bases is not the way to go, and trade lane piracy is just as easy. Trade lanes go down easily to both guns and cruise missiles. Finally, For the love of goodness, DON'T TAUNT THE PLAYERS WHO DOCK AT THE BASE TO GET AWAY FROM YOU! Seriously, if you are using this "technique" to pirate, don't even think of trying to give another player grief for doing the logical thing and taking cover in the base you aren't hostile to.

Especially when the trader is hauling something that benefits your faction.

Two Outcasts tried to pirate me near Naha with a load full of cardamine a few days ago...:D

[Vergil]

I often don't rp with traders because the blokes aren't willing! I patrol Sigma 13, occasionally camping near the Berlin JH, and almost every single person who I come across ignores RP, tries to run, and with a sigh of disappointment, I disrupt the tradelane and SN them, and even though I told them my demands with rp mixed in the *******s say after they are dead "You *******! You didn't make demands, 1 r going to sanction u, n00b." And I am tired of it!

Another type of Pirates I hate are those that lie.

Ex: I got stopped once and a guy took down my shields demanding 3 million to pass, I gave him the money and proceeded, then he fired a CD and damaged my hull even more saying that I wasn't done yet. Even though he blatantly said 3 million to pass, he wanted me to drop my cargo, I turned around, let go of my cargo, shot it, then he killed me, to be expected but still, he was being an arsehole.

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Xelgion, you have done a marvelous thing. Eppy is begging for mercy, in full caps.

[Kambei]

I leave hostile NPCs to trader alive intencionaly...trader in stress pay faster. In same moment as I get payment, trader is free and NPCs dead (if they arent from my or alied faction).

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[Derkylos]

I leave hostile NPCs to trader alive intencionaly...trader in stress pay faster. In same moment as I get payment, trader is free and NPCs dead (if they arent from my or alied faction).

But the intent isnt to get the trader to pay, is it? I thought a pirate making a demand was more akin to opening up an RP window for the trader to respond in.

In fact, most of my pirates no longer demand cash, and the only ones I get really insistent on are the ones encountering the silent Diamond-Niobium traders in Chogoku...

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[BeanzOnToast]

Hmmm ... i must be doing something wrong ... in my short career i made up like 150+ mil from traders while killing only two ...

And as a side note - last 10 mill were made in ravens talon, without CD ... Just cause i was bored ...

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[Blodo]

Remora: Unfortunately, it's not just usually the pirates fault that pirating is generally bad, especially around high traffic areas. I mean, many times you have the trader just silently keeping engaging cruise while you keep CDing him. Other times you stop a trader, you ask to halt, you ask for a donation, and you get silently shot at. And yet other times you have a trader who opens a trade dialog with you, then tries to engage cruise with the trade dialog open, then once you stop him again and kill him he cusses you out in private chat. And not to mention the ones that ask you to kill the Wilde that attack them, then they engage cruise and go "haha sucker" in system chat. All of this is of course acceptable, but it also gives a lot of people an itchy trigger finger, or the desire to nab the traders in situations they can control (like the jump gate thing). It's really hard to trust most traders, and it's the fault of everybody in the end.

So the best thing good traders can do is avoid the high traffic areas like Sigma-13 if they want to get robbed by somebody who is not annoyed already by the sheer volume of people passing through.

[Rudo]

I recently got held up in my well-armored Pirate Transport in a Hacker Slipstream with two Lancer missiles at Rochester. I've killed bombers and gunboats in this thing.

I gave him a tenth of his demanded fee and ten seconds to get lost. He took my offer.

What can I say? I have a soft spot for pirates with cojones.

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