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Aldo , I can't realy see the Millitary flying VERY Heavy Fighters , where the Police flies SUPER Heavy ones , but meh.
Think of it this way. Heavier = more sluggish. Let's presume the project wasn't really suited for the military's needs, as the ship didn't behave to spec during late tests. Be it because it was too prone to attacks by lighter fighters, be it because it lost too much in handling to compensate for a slight gain in firepower. For the military, who are constantly involved in dogfights against other fighters and capital ships it configured an inaceptable tradeoff. However, it proved a sound concept for the police, which usually deals with the barely maneuverable transport class ships. For them, the loss in handling wasn't as significative as the gain in firepower.
If that doesn't work for you, just consider the military to be a more serious institution than the police and while they fly Super Happy Fighters, we just fly Very Happy ones.
What would be really nifty is if the infocards for the ship was changed to confirm this compromise between the two factions. But factions aren't in the best of shape in their influence right now.
' Wrote:...reasons police factions tend to fail, because they end up becoming smaller versions of the military factions...
*cough* LPI *cough*
No offence on the LPI but it is true, they have turned themselves into a smaller Navy by having the SWAT team with Guardians and Havocs, at least thats what I think.
I DEFINATELY agree with Gronath about the seperation and making of character as that is really important for a faction, it's individuality.
And Eternal, we'd be happy to have you:D.
[17:45:39] Wolfs Ghost (Murphy): Tom, you have problems. Go kill yourself.
[19:25:12] Johnny (Jam): Tomtom, I will beat you with a spoon.
[14:22:56] Prarabdh Thakur: KILL HIM WITH A SHEEP.
[17:40:48] Eagle (Junes): Tom should be slapped with a spoon.
[11:32:18] Warspite: Thank you for being so awesome Tom. <3
[18:17:36] Metano: I love you tomtom
[20:06:24] Warspite: I will seriously give you epic head.
' Wrote:Edit: also, Tomtomrawr, fappin' like a boss.
Now , I honestly know from personal expirience exactly how hard it is to make a faction work , when there is another one , bigger and better , that has already been created.
Having what looks to be the full support of the [RM] is one , very importnant step. Also , them being willing to give you two new ships is something that will surely atract people to the RFP|. But even that , might not be enought.
Here are two little suggestions that I have in mind.
First , why do you not name those two ships , the Command Centre and the HQ ? Simply having a plain names like that is not enought to capture people's imaginations and atract them to the faction. It may seem like a simple cosmetic ussue , but I assure you that names / and genaral naming , have alot to offer in terms of flavour , to any faction. That is even more important for factions that are trying to be the " every day man " of discovery. Rheinland offers , in my opinion , the best naming system of all. I strongly suggest you pick two , strong names for those ships. Cawdor is a master at giving German/Rheinland names to ships , you can contact him for advice if you can't choose yourselfs. Not only that , you can ask people from the [RM] , I'm sure they wont mind.
Another small thing that in my opinion will make you more popular. Imagine that someone from the RFP| realy needs to assist his felow rheinlanders in chasing of enemy ships of capital class from his home. Now , if that player is in something like the Phantom , he will feel completely useless in such a sittuation , but not only that he'll loose interest in being the "smallest" and "weakest" in that sittuation. Aldo his RP should indicate exactly that , we all know that the player has to be looked upon as a person aswell. And no person likes to be in such a dead-end sittuation. For that reason , I suggest (after the new mode is released. Cummon release it already!!!!!) creating a seperate , shared accounts that contain one / two SHB(s) and maby a SHF. That way the person would still like to get promoted , because he'll want to have one of those on his own , but at the same time have access to better tech. , if he is not able to be as active as other members. Those ships , if created , should be given to players with ranks , that don't permit them to have their own.
I was thinking that after people reach the rank of Detektiv, they are allowed to make a SVHF or SHB character, but everyone has to keep a Phantom character.
I like the thing about the names, my character was a former Military Cruiser Commander, and he might want to give the re-birth of his cruiser by naming the Command Centre after it. It's name was The Sterbefall by the way, translated as The Defender, what do you guys think about that name for the Command Centre?
[17:45:39] Wolfs Ghost (Murphy): Tom, you have problems. Go kill yourself.
[19:25:12] Johnny (Jam): Tomtom, I will beat you with a spoon.
[14:22:56] Prarabdh Thakur: KILL HIM WITH A SHEEP.
[17:40:48] Eagle (Junes): Tom should be slapped with a spoon.
[11:32:18] Warspite: Thank you for being so awesome Tom. <3
[18:17:36] Metano: I love you tomtom
[20:06:24] Warspite: I will seriously give you epic head.
' Wrote:Edit: also, Tomtomrawr, fappin' like a boss.
Due to the release of the 4.85 beta version, we now have the SVHF. Once members reach the rank of Wachmann, they will be allowed to make ANOTHER character and purchase the SVHF with it, however we will have few if no weapons to supply it with.
[17:45:39] Wolfs Ghost (Murphy): Tom, you have problems. Go kill yourself.
[19:25:12] Johnny (Jam): Tomtom, I will beat you with a spoon.
[14:22:56] Prarabdh Thakur: KILL HIM WITH A SHEEP.
[17:40:48] Eagle (Junes): Tom should be slapped with a spoon.
[11:32:18] Warspite: Thank you for being so awesome Tom. <3
[18:17:36] Metano: I love you tomtom
[20:06:24] Warspite: I will seriously give you epic head.
' Wrote:Edit: also, Tomtomrawr, fappin' like a boss.
Great! Now you guys have your new toy. That being out of the way, let's see this faction strive and be a strong and positive adition to Rheinland. You have [RM]'s full support. Good luck out there!
EDIT: The subject of the ship(s) aside. The ones of you that are also part of the [RM] faction know that we have one field manual that we distribute to the new recruits once they are accepted to the faction (I even noticed that you have used a good deal of its contents in your proposal).
I wrote that manual some months ago and it needs revision. I would like you guys' help in that, because the manual deals with the laws of Rheinland, and now that you are about to become (officially) part of the law enforcement in Rheinland, it's only natural that you get to decide with us what those laws will be.
Also, even though it's been stated in our forums that the [RM] mandate doesn't include smuggling disruption anymore, the manual (being an old publication) still lists it as one of our activities. I will be changing that as well. What I wanted to do aditionally, was to at least state there what is the role of the police in Rheinland and how our pilots are expected to interact (or not), and for that, we (you specifically) first have to come up with a clear description of your role, a mission statement, for example (from the [RM]'s manual):
Quote:2.1 The Kriegsmarine responsibilities
The Rheinwehr has been authorized and deemed responsible by decree of the Office
of the GottKanzler, supreme representative of the Rheinland Nation, to use force in
defending our Nation's sovereignty. This is to be exercised by repulsing actual or
perceived threats to our territory and/or our compatriots. The Kriegsmarine is the
aerospace counterpart of the armed forces. Its mandate is regulate and protect the
spaces around our Nation's territories (Planets, Colonies, Space Stations and Trade
Lanes).
See that I highlighted "regulate"? With the introduction of the RFP, I'd specify what that means within the mandate of the military, so that smuggling disruption (civilian control) isn't interpreted as being part of our jobs. Even though it would still be deemed, by the laws of Rheinland, to be a criminal activity.
Bottomline: I don't know if you intend to create a manual of your own, but if you do, it would be interesting if both RM's role is clearly specified in the RFP manual and vice-versa, so our pilots won't step into each other's toes while in space.
EDIT II: Finally, I know your leadership has access to the RM forums, please refer to those on the matter of the SHB. Thanks.
' Wrote:Great! Now you guys have your new toy. That being out of the way, let's see this faction strive and be a strong and positive adition to Rheinland. You have [RM]'s full support. Good luck out there!
EDIT: The subject of the ship(s) aside. The ones of you that are also part of the [RM] faction know that we have one field manual that we distribute to the new recruits once they are accepted to the faction (I even noticed that you have used a good deal of its contents in your proposal).
I wrote that manual some months ago and it needs revision. I would like you guys' help in that, because the manual deals with the laws of Rheinland, and now that you are about to become (officially) part of the law enforcement in Rheinland, it's only natural that you get to decide with us what those laws will be.
Also, even though it's been stated in our forums that the [RM] mandate doesn't include smuggling disruption anymore, the manual (being an old publication) still lists it as one of our activities. I will be changing that as well. What I wanted to do aditionally, was to at least state there what is the role of the police in Rheinland and how our pilots are expected to interact (or not), and for that, we (you specifically) first have to come up with a clear description of your role, a mission statement, for example (from the [RM]'s manual):
See that I highlighted "regulate"? With the introduction of the RFP, I'd specify what that means within the mandate of the military, so that smuggling disruption (civilian control) isn't interpreted as being part of our jobs. Even though it would still be deemed, by the laws of Rheinland, to be a criminal activity.
Bottomline: I don't know if you intend to create a manual of your own, but if you do, it would be interesting if both RM's role is clearly specified in the RFP manual and vice-versa, so our pilots won't step into each other's toes while in space.
EDIT II: Finally, I know your leadership has access to the RM forums, please refer to those on the matter of the SHB. Thanks.
yeo, our new toy is good and yes, i have access to the forums and i think sheppard might do too. and we'll see about da bomber. also i'll have a wordwith sheppard and vincent about a Manual.
' Wrote:yeo, our new toy is good and yes, i have access to the forums and i think sheppard might do too. and we'll see about da bomber. also i'll have a wordwith sheppard and vincent about a Manual.
Anything else?
Just the curiosity: The hold up in you guys' becoming official was the release of 4.85 or some other problem?
No offence on the LPI but it is true, they have turned themselves into a smaller Navy by having the SWAT team with Guardians and Havocs, at least thats what I think.
Come patrol in PVPwhore central before you pass judgement, then tell us what you think. Mercs and unlawfuls claiming bounties on us, 5 outcast dessies come in and rape the system? I hope you get a taste of what we go thru. Yes, a SWAT team is necessary. I dont know where you are from, but here all police departments have a SWAT team. You don't see the Army going after madmen in tanks, it's the cops. Its within our rp, get over it. It's not going to change any time soon.
Edit: and with the war on, you can't depend on the Military to come and handle something for you.
Formerly known as LPI Police Chief Hull O'Brien.
Creator of Sgt. V. Price, 207th Precinct out of Chula Vista Station
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