CMs can be made effective on caps... but them capital ship missiles loose all efficiency against them... I guess we could make a special osiris CM... sold only on order bases with a very descirpt "for order osiris only"... that is effective like hell...
CD's are a NONO
What i was thinking of would be 100 speed for light BS's and 90 for med and 80 for heavy... to get a bit of a speed advantage...
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no way - speed should be the same for all - 100 speed compared to 80? - thats 25% more... AND the light battleships already have a huge advantage from being able to dodge fire at range.
when a light battleship is cought at point blank range and cannot get away - bad luck. - cause - if a light battleship starts the battle afar, it certainly makes up for its fewer hitpoints and gunpower.
so - the speed for all should stay at 90 .... the problem with another CM is that it negates the really only effective weapon vs. a kiting ( running ) battleship - and thats the missiles. - for - at least as long as the CMs have ammunition.
' Wrote:no way - speed should be the same for all - 100 speed compared to 80? - thats 25% more... AND the light battleships already have a huge advantage from being able to dodge fire at range.
when a light battleship is cought at point blank range and cannot get away - bad luck. - cause - if a light battleship starts the battle afar, it certainly makes up for its fewer hitpoints and gunpower.
so - the speed for all should stay at 90 .... the problem with another CM is that it negates the really only effective weapon vs. a kiting ( running ) battleship - and thats the missiles. - for - at least as long as the CMs have ammunition.
currently..all BS has impulse speed of 90..not 80...and i say 100m/s is Osiris only..because it has the weakest firepower compare to other BSs
Well in any case, osiris is very, very, very well balanced, I personaly made sure it got any boost possible to Cap-kind...
:DI took mine to Alpha about 1 hour ago, went down to a desie spamm, but took some fighters along with me...
It's a good very specialised ship, it's so specialised that it mostly sucks at everything else... Cruisers in perticular, kill it easily, when you see 4 outcast destroyers there is nothing you can do... no CM won't help, no nothing...
Osiris is the kind of ship you use to defend toledo, or take another battleship 1 on 1 that's where it excelles... for everything else order would probably use Fighters/Bombers... It is the battleship of choice when it comes to soloing a battleship... But even that takes great skill.
So it has some interesting stats like very good reverse speed, it's tiny as it always was... it has more hitpoints than some other light bs's and at the same time looks sexy....
I guess the question should be "what would you want osiris to be able to do?"
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' Wrote:Well in any case, osiris is very, very, very well balanced, I personaly made sure it got any boost possible to Cap-kind...
:DI took mine to Alpha about 1 hour ago, went down to a desie spamm, but took some fighters along with me...
It's a good very specialised ship, it's so specialised that it mostly sucks at everything else... Cruisers in perticular, kill it easily, when you see 4 outcast destroyers there is nothing you can do... no CM won't help, no nothing...
Osiris is the kind of ship you use to defend toledo, or take another battleship 1 on 1 that's where it excelles... for everything else order would probably use Fighters/Bombers... It is the battleship of choice when it comes to soloing a battleship... But even that takes great skill.
So it has some interesting stats like very good reverse speed, it's tiny as it always was... it has more hitpoints than some other light bs's and at the same time looks sexy....
I guess the question should be "what would you want osiris to be able to do?"
i want Osiris can has better mobility than any other Battleship...strafe maybe increase to 20m/s i would say..and can go forward 100m/s..backward 40m~50m/s (actually..it doesnt really matter..i want it to go forward faster and that's enough for me..but of course..go backward faster is even better)..Osiris is more like a ship use for tactic..if you use it right..it's a wtfpwn Battleship to enemy...no? it's just a Battlecruiser with more armour and abit more firepower..
hey tenny, the valks that flew with you in the single player game could cloak as well. Remember they pop that cap with torps that was blocking your way. I think other rhein fighters had them as well.
But yeah, no cloaks.
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' Wrote:hey tenny, the valks that flew with you in the single player game could cloak as well. Remember they pop that cap with torps that was blocking your way. I think other rhein fighters had them as well.
But yeah, no cloaks.
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Well, Lancer-X, what is osiris suppose to do? What scenarios should it win?
Right now it pwns bombers and solo battleships, Solo cruisers are no problem at all.... It dies however to GB and Cruiser spamm...
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' Wrote:Well, Lancer-X, what is osiris suppose to do? What scenarios should it win?
Right now it pwns bombers and solo battleships, Solo cruisers are no problem at all.... It dies however to GB and Cruiser spamm...
Indeed , balance is needed. The ship cannot and simply must not perform flawlessly against every other ship class.
I like your Osiris only CM idea and would greatly want to see it being added to the next mod. One thing I don't agree with , however , is the proposal of increased speed for the Osiris. Aldo I would personally have nothing against it , it will make the Osiris an extremely difficult target to down and one that is able to easily evade enemy BS's fire and still be able to take them down. It wont be an auto win ship , even with speed of 100m/s , but it would be a bit much.
A special CM , faster cruise engine charge and perhaps a CD would do , just fine.
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