Rp Background and Reasons

[Zelot]

Gaian's are actually against the destruction of Ecosystem's, and Nature. Nothing about Food. They're not Farmer's. They're Environmentalists.

So technically, Farming destroys the ecosystem. So, in reality, if I was a Gaian. I would be against the Farmers Alliance.

If you read anything I have ever posted about the AFA, you would understand the the A in AFA, the first one that is, signifies Artisan,

Artisan : one that produces something (as cheese or wine) in limited quantities often using traditional methods

Traditional methods are usually much more ecological friendly than modern methods.

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[Dusty Lens]

Hang on.... The Gaians can't get even near a ballot box in Bretonia... no votes, we have no chance without guns

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The Gaians are, correct me if someone has some direct evidence to the contrary, a small violent sect of a much larger "green front" organization which has a substantial political presence.

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[Skyelius]

Bretonia has ZERO DEALINGS WITH SYNTH FOODS.

'Anyone who knows abot business or politics'? You're an expert on both now? I'm a month or two from finishing a degree in Politics, (which doesn't make me an expert, but I think I know a few things) and I don't think they should be in Leeds.

Synth Paste is a revolutionary (I think you know what that word means) product in the food industry. A Synth Foods faction doesn't need to make a deal with your BAF for trade to be present. Maybe you should spend more time studying than arguing.

There's no trade going into Kusari from Bretonia. They should be more concerned about Libertonians.

Absurd. Liberty is where the company originated from, but didn't sugar originate from one part of the world (India?) and now it's all over the globe?

Libertonians being a "concern" to Kusari? Liberty and Kusari... *sigh* ...I don't think I need to make another long post to back up my first word in the previous paragraph.

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[Col_Lodden]

Hang on.... The Gaians can't get even near a ballot box in Bretonia... no votes, we have no chance without guns

No suprise we ally with the AFA... Helpful in a military conflict and also in Trade lanes in and out of Edinbro' All very sensible to me.

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[bluntpencil2001]

Synth Paste is a revolutionary (I think you know what that word means) product in the food industry. A Synth Foods faction doesn't need to make a deal with your BAF for trade to be present. Maybe you should spend more time studying than arguing.
Absurd. Liberty is where the company originated from, but didn't sugar originate from one part of the world (India?) and now it's all over the globe?

Libertonians being a "concern" to Kusari? Liberty and Kusari... *sigh* ...I don't think I need to make another long post to back up my first word in the previous paragraph.

In fact, I have been reading. The rumours in Cambridge deny any Synth Foods presence in Bretonia, because they have real farms.

The Synth Foods vehicles are arriving from Liberty, not through the blockaded Taus. Farmers hate Synth Foods and foreign trade. The foreign trade is coming from Liberty, not Bretonia.

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[Derkylos]

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The Gaians are, correct me if someone has some direct evidence to the contrary, a small violent sect of a much larger "green front" organization which has a substantial political presence.

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Yes, they do, and the GB infocard refers to the Green Front...yet in the same sentence refers to their support for Kusari.

I think something needs to be sorted out here, as the Gaians are definetly not gonna keep their "legal" front if they openly support Kusari, nor are they gonna keep the sympathy of the police (which they apparently have).

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[Zelot]

hum, this thread was put here so we ask question.
My view of the FA, as it is, is very different from that of what you people seems to have. It also seems my view is shared by a good proportion of the server populace.

I comment as one who has nothing to do at all with kusari bretonian war (I mean, sure I have one indie GC, but its only at my advantage if AFA is actually busy somewhere else...)

So yeah.

Zelot says AFA are well funded - true. Samura fund them.
They are well trained, very probably too.

Does that make them an external conflict militia? not so sure.
To me, FA is a humble traditionalist faction bent on protecting its people from the foreigners; when their own goal has not been achieved, they are now bent on something incredibly ambitious somehow that is, the take over of foreign market.

They might be trained to military level, or at least professional contractor skills, but they certainly are not numerous (as Zelot himself mentionned the small size of the organisation) enough to be of any use against a militaristic force using heavier arsenal. It would be loss in material and life that should rather be used for kusari internal defence - which is somewhat neglected as of right now.

Size is not an issue here, lets imagine the AFA have 5 wings, 4 in Kusari and 1 in Bretonia. Also the issue of using a smaller force against a larger force is also fairly moot, as it is not our intention to fight with the BAF, we are looking to attack their supply lines with hit and run raids. Lastly we are not leaving our other goals behind, we are adding a role, a role we have already been playing for over a year without complaint.

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[Wolfs Ghost]

If you read anything I have ever posted about the AFA, you would understand the the A in AFA, the first one that is, signifies Artisan,
Traditional methods are usually much more ecological friendly than modern methods.

That's not the point, an Environmentalist is against destruction of nature, that includes traditional methods.

And if your going to pull real life crap into a game, I might as well do it myself. Enjoy (you won't read it because you think so Highly of yourself anyways.): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism


EDIT: Oh, I always thought A stood for Angry. *mumbles*

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[Zelot]

That's not the point, an Environmentalist is against destruction of nature, that includes traditional methods.

And if your going to pull real life crap into a game, I might as well do it myself. Enjoy (you won't read it because you think so Highly of yourself anyways.): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism

So you have magically decided the truth of the matter without reading any of the rp? Nice, I am glad you are here to make a well informed addition to the discussion.


Edit: Oh wait.... so the Gaians oppose growning food?

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[Dusty Lens]

Synth Paste is a revolutionary (I think you know what that word means) product in the food industry. A Synth Foods faction doesn't need to make a deal with your BAF for trade to be present. Maybe you should spend more time studying than arguing.
Absurd. Liberty is where the company originated from, but didn't sugar originate from one part of the world (India?) and now it's all over the globe?

Libertonians being a "concern" to Kusari? Liberty and Kusari... *sigh* ...I don't think I need to make another long post to back up my first word in the previous paragraph.

Sky, Synthpaste is indeed a product of Libertonian origin but has no production presence within Bretonian space. Planet Los Angeles and Stuttgart are, afaik, the only worlds upon which the cellulose plants that comprise synthpaste are actually produced. Kusari's conservative movements, such as the FA, are seeking to repulse the growing tide of the product's popularity within Kusari in the wake of their increasing inability to produce sufficient conventional foodstuffs to be economically competitive.

I'm sure there are plenty of Bretonians who munch on the stuff, it's cheap and preserves nicely, but there's no footing in associating the root of synthpaste in any way with Bretonia. They are, at most, a consumer of the product with their own well established conventional farming communities comprising the bulk of that nation's nutritional needs.

If eating synth is grounds for hostilities, someone better warn the Corsairs that the FA is coming.

Just something to keep in mind.