' Wrote:That option was probably explored by Bretonia, hundreds of years ago when Planetform was formed. The chances are that there wouldn't be enough at competitive prices.
Competitive prices are not high on the Gaians list of concerns, they would rather pay more for food that is grown in a way that does not harm the environment.
' Wrote:Well no, by disco definitions they are not terrorists, nor are they considered terrorists by the Kusari government.
Tell that to the Synth convoys blown up, though.
' Wrote:Competitive prices are not high on the Gaians list of concerns, they would rather pay more for food that is grown in a way that does not harm the environment.
And cause famine. Right. I'm sure their Corsair allies can tell them how that works out. Also note that the 'traditional Kusari methods' have some linkage to Samura terraforming projects.
' Wrote:Sky, Synthpaste is indeed a product of Libertonian origin but has no production presence within Bretonian space. Planet Los Angeles and Stuttgart are, afaik, the only worlds upon which the cellulose plants that comprise synthpaste are actually produced. Kusari's conservative movements, such as the FA, are seeking to repulse the growing tide of the product's popularity within Kusari in the wake of their increasing inability to produce sufficient conventional foodstuffs to be economically competitive.
I'm sure there are plenty of Bretonians who munch on the stuff, it's cheap and preserves nicely, but there's no footing in associating the root of synthpaste in any way with Bretonia. They are, at most, a consumer of the product with their own well established conventional farming communities comprising the bulk of that nation's nutritional needs.
If eating synth is grounds for hostilities, someone better warn the Corsairs that the FA is coming.
Just something to keep in mind.
That proves you point well. But the Synth Foods' (disproved) relation in the Gaian cooperation with the AFA (and hence, a small part of the AFA's presence in Bretonia) is just a possibility, not meant to be a fundamental reason for the argument that the AFA is doing their job.
' Wrote:And these small lots have what to do with invading Bretonia?
Nobody mentioned invading. I don't think the BAF should be too troubled by AFA presences, so you don't have worry. AFA seems to have been using only tactical and guerrilla-style attacks to protect the interests of Kusari by raiding Bretonian points of trade and commerce like Planetform property, and hence the cooperation with Gaians (who're not really a part of the large points here, but I don't think that they're carnivorous natives that don't eat fruit; farming is a natural process of human interaction with it's environment).
' Wrote:They can however get a Freelancer definition.
They are terrorists who target foreign shipping in Kusari, primarily Synth Foods.
They aren't a mercenary force used to invade foreign nations.
No, not "primarily". They use their influence in the government to make the trade more difficult. A more real threat for them would be a force that threatens Kusari's politics.
"It is a cold universe until you know God as your Father, and then it becomes a home. Even the next life simply becomes the Father's house, home."
—David Pawson
Again. The Gaian discussion is over. This topic is that of the Farmers Alliance and their presence within Bretonia as part of the Naval war effort in that region. -DL
' Wrote:Tell that to the Synth convoys blown up, though.
And cause famine. Right. I'm sure their Corsair allies can tell them how that works out.
We are still required to make a demand of synthfoods ships. And the Corsairs have no food because they have no place to grow it. Kusari on the other hand, has two whole planets almost completely devoted to producing food. They have more than they know what to do with. I am sure they could work something out, especially when Cambridge is converted to small scale farming collectives, that will give us three planets. Add to that planet Tomioka in Nagano and Miyazaki in Tau 42, both are Gaia like planets devoted to farming. I think the Kusari farmers could produce enough food to feed the Corsairs and the Bretonians, along with the Kusari.
' Wrote:Nobody mentioned invading. I don't think the BAF should be too troubled by AFA presences, so you don't have worry. AFA seems to have been using only tactical and guerrilla-style attacks to protect the interests of Kusari by raiding Bretonian points of trade and commerce like Planetform property, and hence the cooperation with Gaians (who're not really a part of the large points here, but I don't think that they're carnivorous natives that don't eat fruit; farming is a natural process of human interaction with it's environment).
AFA have engaged in battles on the KNF side. Pitched battles.
Cutting Bretonian supplies does not keep foreign trade out of Kusari. That is their goal.
The idea that 'traditional' methods of farming do not change the landscape is ridiculous. I don't know if you've ever been to the little island where i'm from, Great Britain, but, the whole island used to be wooded. Now, it is completely covered in fields seperated by dry stone walls. That is not intensive farming, not even remotely close. It is hundreds of years old, 'artisan' farming. And it has literally completely changed the entire landscape of my country.
Also Zelot, your point about how the AFA is an amalgam of a bunch of different things and is 'impossible to define' is what I meant when I said you have completely changed the vanilla RP of the faction.
' Wrote:AFA have engaged in battles on the KNF side. Pitched battles.
Cutting Bretonian supplies does not keep foreign trade out of Kusari. That is their goal.
Blunt, can you stop telling me what my goals are. I have listed our goals in the first post, and explained how our operations fit into them. Please stop repeating yourself.
' Wrote:We are still required to make a demand of synthfoods ships. And the Corsairs have no food because they have no place to grow it. Kusari on the other hand, has two whole planets almost completely devoted to producing food. They have more than they know what to do with. I am sure they could work something out, especially when Cambridge is converted to small scale farming collectives, that will give us three planets. Add to that planet Tomioka in Nagano and Miyazaki in Tau 42, both are Gaia like planets devoted to farming. I think the Kusari farmers could produce enough food to feed the Corsairs and the Bretonians, along with the Kusari.
Powerplay. If that were the case, there would be no hunger in Sirius at all, due to complete overabundance of food. You're pipe dreaming now about Cambridge too. It's already largely farms. With Synth Foods ships, demand they drop everything.
' Wrote:Blunt, can you stop telling me what my goals are. I have listed our goals in the first post, and explained how our operations fit into them. Please stop repeating yourself.
Not my fault if you don't know your own faction's goals.
' Wrote:Powerplay. If that were the case, there would be no hunger in Sirius at all, due to complete overabundance of food. You're pipe dreaming now about Cambridge too. It's already largely farms.
Not my fault if you don't know your own faction's goals.
How is that a powerplay. I did not create Nagano, nor Shikoku, nor Kyushu. Three major food producing planets. And Bretonia feeds itself from just Cambridge, so imagine how much food Kusari is producing.
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