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PETITION: Nerf NPCs
Offline pieguy259
04-07-2009, 02:54 AM,
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' Wrote:One might argue that maybe you shouldn't trade, but that would be unfair because I simply detest the idea and think its a lazy way to make money. I either merc or scrap old ships to buy new ones.

Those of us who are not PvP gods would disagree.

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Offline ivr56
04-07-2009, 02:54 AM,
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Get rid of Regular NPCs usage Train CDs and I think everyone would be alot happier.
I'm all in for that option.

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Offline Grumblesaur
04-07-2009, 02:54 AM,
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My only problem is the Osiris spam you get when you take Eta missions.

Something reasonable, like 5 GBs instead of 5 Battleships.

Plzkthxbai.

/signed.

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Offline Eppy
04-07-2009, 02:56 AM,
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' Wrote:Take out the caps, otherwise get over it. If you're good enough for PvP, then don't gripe over computers flying the same patterns over and over.:dry:

I say keep them. If you're outsmarted by a machine, then I think the devs should apply for R&D positions at some lab. If you're outgunned by a machine, fly better. Frankly anybody who can't beat the NPCs almost deserves to get swarmed by two dozen of them - just to spite said person.

Magoo.

I take an Outcast Dreadnought into Eta and shoot up an Osiris. I have it dead in ten seconds, but while it's busy dieing (which takes longer than it took to kill it) its pulse guns have dropped my shield and are dealing me hull damage, which is expensive and can massively interfere with fleet combat (which is my biggest concern. Whoever's NPCs spawn first wins)

It's an NPC a quarter of my size.

I take a nice 400K mission off of Malta in that same Outcast Dreadnought. I am steamrolled by four BHG Destroyers. I kill them all, but they do more hull damage to me than the mission was worth. And what happens when you get one of these in a Destroyer (answer: They have Train CDs and Razors and an infinite powerplant, so you're screwed. Personal experience) or a fighter? You want to FLY better? Repping just got a hundred times more painful. THAT is a problem.

Durka durka?

Also, I have yet to see a single damn OC cap in Eta, but I've downed several Osirises. OC BS patrols and Dread patrols in Alpha and 85, plox, just like the Corsair homies get.

And I don't know about you guys, but the first time I brought a flier out of Penny...well...what weapons platforms? I was dead before I hit realspace the first time. The second time I knew to dodge, but I still got hit, and had a rather harrowing experience that a newbie shouldn't suffer (unless, of course, he's a capwhore).

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Offline Magoo!
04-07-2009, 02:58 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-07-2009, 03:04 AM by Magoo!.)
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Pie Wrote:Those of us who are not PvP gods would disagree.
Me Wrote:One might argue that maybe you shouldn't trade, but that would be unfair because I simply detest the idea and think its a lazy way to make money. I either merc or scrap old ships to buy new ones.
i.e. I'm bias. Hence, I realise that others might enjoy trading somehow or think its hard work umm... Hitting F6, right clicking then clicking the thing to the right then... F2. Oh dear! There goes my oversimplification due to fire hatreds acting up again!

Aaaanyways. Kuro and Ivr have reiterated my sentiments.

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Eppy Wrote:... or a fighter? You want to FLY better? Repping just got a hundred times more painful. THAT is a problem.
Yes. I feel your pain. All of these opinions aren't coming from a blind idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. Exhibit A: I get swarmed by 4 BH Dessies in a Titan and when I make a completely in RP request for help, I get "Omg, u shudd heif picked bettur". A tip, anything under skill level 39 usually doesn't have caps. Admittedly its not really worth anything, but still. I learned this during the long line of "Lolwuts", "Omg noob" and a myriad of other condescending remarks.

-Double Edit- And generally when a giant crown jewel of a fleet gets pummeled by shots meants to annihilate armor, its understandable the repair bill would be high. The missions are probably meant for bombers, maybe a really good GB pilot, not a planet-sized target expecting to make a profit off of a private commission.
 
Offline pieguy259
04-07-2009, 02:59 AM,
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' Wrote:And I don't know about you guys, but the first time I brought a flier out of Penny...well...what weapons platforms? I was dead before I hit realspace the first time. The second time I knew to dodge, but I still got hit, and had a rather harrowing experience that a newbie shouldn't suffer (unless, of course, he's a capwhore).

Similar experience undocking from Hamilton Station in Ontario. Rogues annihilated my flea like three times in a row right next to an Ageira base and a Police JG. >.<

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Offline tazuras
04-07-2009, 03:10 AM,
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' Wrote:Add to what Nexus said, in response to Magoo, 3 NPCs completely halt my train/Ctrans/Whalener. I have to kill them all. In the train? it takes upwards of twenty minutes. This is ridiculous.

Where are you flying that they have TCD's? Because in my experience this is the only CD that can stop at least the liner and the train, the others i dont know for sure.

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Offline pieguy259
04-07-2009, 03:14 AM,
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Actually, Taz, I once got stopped in a Heavy Tanker by a couple of Molly NPCs who managed to hit all my engines with Wasps simultaneously. Rare, but it happens.

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Offline Derkylos
04-07-2009, 03:22 AM,
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' Wrote:Exactly. This is a RP server, so essentially infecting the entire population of Sirius with some disease that inhibits motor functions and rational thought is absurd. Just because they're NPCs doesn't mean they should be considered less than players. RP speaking, of course.

Tis good RP to dock camp Toledo in a BH cap and rape anything that undocks? Oh, goodiee...

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Offline Syndic
04-07-2009, 03:29 AM,
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Increase the drop value of bigger ships to make the mission worthwhile.

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