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A small reminder to NY lawfuls
Offline Tenacity
04-30-2009, 08:53 AM,
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' Wrote:Every day i get this PMed me or skyped, can we do anything bout the loldessies coming to NY and simply shooting anything that is red. If they aren't braking the rules there is no way we cans top it and believe me when i see a rogue dessie shooting 2 liberators, even tho hostile to npcs id rather want to shoot that dessie.

No, we are not responsible for idie caps in NY, sadly we cannot police them around, yes i know lawfuls are getting ganked and the best thing we can do is to simply not join in on the attacks. Sorry, guys.

heh, welcome to my world...

New Player: Aki.Kimura
Randomlibertynavydude: "wtf dude more of ur order capwhores was attacking ny 2day!"


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Offline Walker
04-30-2009, 08:58 AM,
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' Wrote:Randomlibertynavydude: "wtf dude more of ur order capwhores was attacking ny 2day!"

Give me his name...

And I will give you his eyes.

Joe's actually done a fat good lot of stuff to cut down on LNS Capwhorage; Maybe you can try emulate what hes doing?

Tiberius Walker, putting flames out and being awesome since Apr 13 2008 ™
[8/17/2008 5:56:46 PM] Aaron (Boss/Jurgen) says: Can't bring myself to say it... Looks like you get the LABC, I've seen what you can do in one
Walker (Albert Wint): I can has win? --- Epyon the Bored: You can haz win. --- [1:18:00 PM] Chris (Niezck) says: I love you <3
[5:55:53 PM] Raisu says: Walker pwned both Battleships(LNS-Texas LNS-Arizona) - [5:55:57 PM] Raisu says: in a cruiser
Tiberius Walker, spreading mayhem, destruction, and Spamming Flood since Oct 22 2008 ™
[9:08:25 AM] Gurjiv (Frozen) says: I hope someone gives you AIDs.
[7:15:17 PM] Dylan (Ximen) says: Walker... you have no idea how much fail you bring into this world...
[8:05:08 AM] Ross (SevereTrinity) says: Screw you for making me install FL again
[10:51Big GrinIE AM] Epyon the Bored says: My god if I ever meet you I am going to strangle you.
Tiberius Walker, being better then you since April 30, 2009 ™
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Offline akar.zaephyr
04-30-2009, 09:01 AM,
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' Wrote:(...)
EDIT: Battlement.Mesa: That's the problem. We can't destroy such a ship. We're not allowed to. Thanks, admins.

Well, why not? I don't recall any ID saying you can't shoot mutined independents.
More, if they make a poor RP, even no RP at all, I think the point saying you can't force others to RP doesn't take a place since the guy is not RPing at all?

That's just my point of view but maybe I'm wrong.

' Wrote:yeah my spell and such sucks but i what ever
(...)
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Offline Walker
04-30-2009, 09:04 AM,
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There are certain rules and guidelines that go un-read in Discovery...

That youll eventually pick up before you break them.

However in extreme circumstances we have shot at Independents... Partly because they do stupid things like shoot at allies...

Tiberius Walker, putting flames out and being awesome since Apr 13 2008 ™
[8/17/2008 5:56:46 PM] Aaron (Boss/Jurgen) says: Can't bring myself to say it... Looks like you get the LABC, I've seen what you can do in one
Walker (Albert Wint): I can has win? --- Epyon the Bored: You can haz win. --- [1:18:00 PM] Chris (Niezck) says: I love you <3
[5:55:53 PM] Raisu says: Walker pwned both Battleships(LNS-Texas LNS-Arizona) - [5:55:57 PM] Raisu says: in a cruiser
Tiberius Walker, spreading mayhem, destruction, and Spamming Flood since Oct 22 2008 ™
[9:08:25 AM] Gurjiv (Frozen) says: I hope someone gives you AIDs.
[7:15:17 PM] Dylan (Ximen) says: Walker... you have no idea how much fail you bring into this world...
[8:05:08 AM] Ross (SevereTrinity) says: Screw you for making me install FL again
[10:51Big GrinIE AM] Epyon the Bored says: My god if I ever meet you I am going to strangle you.
Tiberius Walker, being better then you since April 30, 2009 ™
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Offline Thexare
04-30-2009, 09:04 AM,
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' Wrote:Well, why not? I don't recall any ID saying you can't shoot mutined independents.
More, if they make a poor RP, even no RP at all, I think the point saying you can't force others to RP doesn't take a place since the guy is not RPing at all?

That's just my point of view but maybe I'm wrong.
This notice, though there's some room for interpretation, basically means there's not a damn thing we can do to enforce special diplomatic arrangements, proper use of capital ships, or anything else at all.
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Offline darthbeck
04-30-2009, 09:05 AM,
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*coughs*

corsairs camping manhatten? outcast dessies raping west point? indies spoiling your fun?

CALL :

1 800 XENOTIME

we will come and help take out the lolwhatters while you wait....unless we decide to kill you first.....

but really. call us on skype. we can help kill the capwhores.

' Wrote:<span style="font-family:Century Gothic">Violence is Golden</span>
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Offline jimmy Patterson
04-30-2009, 09:11 AM,
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the faction (formerly knowen as the order in this argument)did what any modern naval power would do tried to capture there vessel and as such the faction couldent so the faction shot said bretrayer and as such the faction got a bogus rule made because of there ironiocly INRP response

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Offline Reverend Del
04-30-2009, 09:57 AM,
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Wrong mister patterson (and not for the first time I might add) The reason this rule was made was because the old Bs| did something a wee bit daft and abused their ability to police said Juggernaut by attempting to force anti-cannon diplomacy on the Juggernaut. Had they been policing the use of their own ship that wouldn't have been an issue and we most likely wouldn't be in the situation we are now.

But Arthur is right, as much as we want to do it we cannot, so please stop asking us to.

Unfortunately it doesn't fit Rogue RP to be creating a raft of rules to police the indies, we're not supposed to be that organised.

However something does need to be done, they are ruining folks fun despite being within the rules.

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Offline akar.zaephyr
04-30-2009, 10:01 AM,
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' Wrote:This notice, though there's some room for interpretation, basically means there's not a damn thing we can do to enforce special diplomatic arrangements, proper use of capital ships, or anything else at all.

Thank you, I red this thread so, gentlemen, here's the quotation:

' Wrote:(...)
3) Should a player faction be able to prevent purchases of ships from their guard system to other members of the same npc faction ? (Regardless of guard system ownership).
* Yes - 1 vote
* No --- 8 votes

(...)

But we don't consider cap-ship selling control, so that's good for us. Let'em buy it.
But what if such an indie behaves in a bad way?

Well:

' Wrote:(...)
None of these decisions prevent a player faction or non-player faction members of an npc faction from exerting influence (including gunfire) on characters belonging to their npc faction who are behaving contrary to the accepted roleplay for that faction as created by the mod and described by the Administration. In other words, if a Corsair affiliated character is behaving contrary to the way a Corsair should behave (for example, allying with BHG and attacking The Order) then other Corsairs may consider him hostile and act accordingly.

The point is that disruptive behavior may be dealt with by factions and players within the guidelines of their roleplay, but the simple fact of a ship purchase does not constitute disruptive behavior.

(...)

So, if I understand it right, we have some right to force proper RP behavior.
The question is - if a faction indy shoots everything red around, is it contrary behavior to it's faction?
Well, I don't know but if a Lane Hacker behaves like terrorist, shooting everything around, it seems he's not following faction's proper RP. In my opinion it is a green light to teach him some manners.

As Darthbeck said, call Xenos;)
On the other hand, there is something like Guard ID. Which, by default, is hostile to almost everyone except it's faction. Do I see a solution here?;)Can you?;)

Sorry for the last question, I just intensively try to find some solution or at least hint to solve this problem.

' Wrote:yeah my spell and such sucks but i what ever
(...)
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04-30-2009, 10:18 AM,
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Right, one of the reasons we made the Liberty Unlawful chat is to keep things in order, what we should do is to sling a few in game active members in a liberty LAWFUL chat for a first part warnings of lolcaps.

Quote:So, if I understand it right, we have some right to force proper RP behavior.

No, we are supposed to
Quote:Give and example of the NPC faction's RP
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