Mandalorian Mercenaries (and friends and enemies)

[Zapp]

Just a note, it's rather easy to work both sides of a conflict (in an OOC way). I have a Xeno/Hacker and a LPI/LN. Just be sure one doesn't influence the other.

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[Recoil9000]

1) Malexa (Diane Blane) is to become Mandalore, because Gronath has left Discovery. : Malexa is willing and able, and it was Gronath's wish before he left that if he didn't come back, that's what should happen.

From what I have seen of Malexa in game and on the recruitment page lately, she would make an awesome Mandalore!

2) We rebase in Coronado, and consider purchasing it. A move most MM I've talked to would support. We still keep a common armoury of some sort at New London too though. Maybe we relocate the Connecticut ones.

I loved the idea of rebasing in Coronado, it provides an excellent home base for us.

3) Ditch Star Wars : Become say, the Manchester Mercs. This is more radical and I don’t necessarily support it, but it is worth debating. Manchester, because we got our start on Manchester's Sheffield station.

Truthfully, I didn't know that our name was from starwars till i was searching for pictures for my sig recently.
I'm fine with keeping the current name.

4) The Dha’wherd (Scout Arrows on 2 common accounts, which never get used): 4 alternatives :

a) Kill the Dhawherd. Part of Diane’s ascendancy. Replace ships on common account with “Anonymous” battle ready ships. (Not just arrows) For instance MM~John.Smith. (I favour this alternative) (NOTE : This would be expensive. They have no armour, so armour alone for Cls 8 = 20 X 15 = $300 mill.)

b) Kill the Dhawherd, but don’t replace them. Strip them and don’t use the accounts.

c) Upgrade the Dhawherd. Get them useful ships and keep their names.

d) Change nothing. Keep Arrows on common accounts (which no one uses.)

who, what, when, where? -- (never knew we had these...)

5) Work for LN against RM, and also work for OC-aligned Rheinland unlawfuls : This could open up Rheinland unlawful ships, and means MM has more action, and also does the dirty work in Rheinland that perhaps Bretonia would favour (preferring the Liberty side of that war) but Bretonia would want no part of being seen to be involved.

err... I thought we worked for Rheinland as well and were suppose to stay as neutral between Rheinland and Liberty as we could. As it has been mentioned before, yes, it would open up some more possible action for us.

6) Gallia franchise : Work for Council et al against GRN. (Or the other way around, but fighting for Council against GRN makes more sense.) I've PM'd some of the Council players. Maybe we aren't even wanted, I don't yet know.

Hmm... we could work for the council if they invite us. Working for the GRN just doesn't make any sence, they don't want any outsiders on their turf.

7) Renew old expired contracts.
What about a Bretonian contract against the =CR= again, or shall we work for the BD or GC again?

These contracts must have been here before I joined.

8) How to deal with the other Mercenaries guilds? (ie Reavers etc)
Could range from friendly rivalry to cold neutrality to out and out combat. (Killing the competition, cuththroat, eh?) I don't favour too radical an approach though. Cold Neutrality is fine by me.

Keep it a friendly rivalry...

9) We need to get a Banker again. Someone who we can trust and someone who will look after our cash, items and the contract payments. Flo did an awesome job but currently isn't active enough. And if someone wants to offer to do this, I don't want one who offers and quits. Frankly I'd rather me and/or Malexa did it in our spare time, even if it meant less frequent invoicing.

I would offer, but I really don't want to make invoices if I don't have to. Also, I generally am only to get on later in the evening here or on the weekends, but not for long.

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[Dieter Schprokets]

I joined MM because I could help Rheinlanders against the Hessians :-/
And it kinda kills my RP story background if I fight with the Hessians

Actually, we often do, when fighting Corsairs. And we have seldom fought for RM against hessians. We spend most time fighting Corsairs, Hessians biggest enemies.

As for liberty I'd rather shoot at them. They have more players.

If we remain Bretonian centred, we can't shoot at LN, they have a Treaty. Also, LN and LSF have been our clientd much more than RM.

I think we should stay neutral in their battle. You said yourself that you and Malexa both have Characters as Rheinlanders. Kinda working for two sides there.

Not an issue at all. Multifactioning = good thing. Its the disco way.

Maybe we could spread out. I think the idea of working for the council was just brought up. I'm not opposed. Instead of attacking factions that are already there open up more space for us to fly in.

I would very much like to get work in Gallia.

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[Lanakov]

I strongly agree about Gallia ; That is indeed spreading ourselves a bit.
I'm only worried about the effect it would have with our OC allies,but well,we will see about that.

I'd prefer staying neutral in the Liberty-Rheinland too,but sometimes we need to carry out dirty tasks.I leave this to you.

I'd also suggest to keep mandalorians.I also ignored where it came from before searching a bit.I doubt that most people know that it's SWish,and it gives us something special.

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Feedback, insults, marriage proposals and declarations of fealty

If everyone was a bit more like Lanakov, the entire world would be more positive. Including pregnancy tests.

[OD-Saber189]

No...I mean like Fighting with the Hessians as an Ally.
My character is supposed to hate them.

That's probably true about Liberty. It's all good.



I try not to multifaction people too much. I've had people that I just destroyed come right back as an enemy faction. I felt it was kinda lame.
But hey...it's a personal choice. Go for it.

Galia ftw.

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Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me

Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

There's no place I can be
Since I found serenity
But you can't take the sky from me

~Firefly~

[Virus]

To quote someone talking about my opinion on this matter:
"There is no end to how much I don't care."

Honestly, not my faction. More people shooting at the RM doesn't change anything. I don't need to care.

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Into the Maelstrom - A Measure of Salvation - Reaver Company Database

[farmerman]

Ideas for discussion in this thread, for Mandalorians and those who know us well.

If you don't know us, please don't post.

1) Malexa (Diane Blane) is to become Mandalore, because Gronath has left Discovery. : Malexa is willing and able, and it was Gronath's wish before he left that if he didn't come back, that's what should happen.

Good choice. Malexa, despite being the archnemesis of my LWB, seems a good person. Thumbs up!

2) We rebase in Coronado, and consider purchasing it. A move most MM I've talked to would support. We still keep a common armoury of some sort at New London too though. Maybe we relocate the Connecticut ones.

Rebasing makes sense, but I don't think purchasing is a possibility. If so, I'd suggest otherwise - it's too interesting as it is now. Getting some kind of system would be neat though, you've around for a long time, haven't you?

3) Ditch Star Wars : Become say, the Manchester Mercs. This is more radical and I dont necessarily support it, but it is worth debating. Manchester, because we got our start on Manchester's Sheffield station.

Not sure about that particular name, but something like that would be great. If only the name, it still distills the FL essence. I support at least a post-Mandalorian station, possibly with the name based on it?

6) Gallia franchise : Work for Council et al against GRN. (Or the other way around, but fighting for Council against GRN makes more sense.) I've PM'd some of the Council players. Maybe we aren't even wanted, I don't yet know.

That makes sense to me. If you ease into it, I think it'd be a great addition.

I'd like opinions on all the above, from involved parties. That includes the folks we work for, the ones we shoot at, as well as the ones we may start shooting at (ie, RM) Not opinions from uninvolved folks, at all.

I support shooting the RM, haha. :laugh:

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Faction info links: Samura Heavy Industries : LWB : Watchers

[Eternal]

Dennis is a fine choice not only because he cares about the faction and would make a great Mandalore , but because unlike many people , myself included !>!? , knows exactly what he wants from disco and that is why he is not in a bazilion factions.

I agree with Dieter on everything he suggested. Although Rheinland does not need more hate , it is only natural for mercenaries to go where there is more money , that would be Liberty in this case.

On some notes about aiding the Rheinland unlawfuls , there are three more factions besides the Hessians , that would be Bundschuh , LWB and Unioners. Aiding some of them might convince Bretonia to look the other way , since neither attack them. However , speaking from the Bundschuh , I'd say that we wont support "money grabbing intruders" a.k.a mercenaries into our bases , much more if they support Liberty. Can't say anything about the other two factions.

All in all , I'm sad to see Gronath leave , hope he gets back and I know that Dennis will do a fine job keeping the MM~ in top shape. Although I think that he allowed people to join the MM~ who where not yet familiar enough with the server , however I suppose that under the watch eye of a lot of experience people on disco , they will learn faster.

About the name , perhaps alter it completely ? I honestly don't like the sound of Manchester Mercenaries , doesn't sound right , somehow.. We'll figure that later , I suppose.

Eternal

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[Malexa]

I will write my current thoughts on the few topics that need revision here, including the recent opinions from the whole lot of you:)

1) Malexa (Diane Blane) is to become Mandalore, because Gronath has left Discovery. : Malexa is willing and able, and it was Gronath's wish before he left that if he didn't come back, that's what should happen.

At first, thanks for your verry kind words here, they mean a lot for me. :ylove:
Gronath left a verry big hole in Disco when leaving us and I miss him a lot.
His constitution of leading a faction or beeing and admiral is nearly unbeaten here.
If I can roleplay the Mandalore only as half good as he did, the Mandalorians will be facing a great time.
He has been my disco teacher regarding diplomacy, leadership and the special Military or Mercenary way of roleplay.

2) We rebase in Coronado, and consider purchasing it. A move most MM I've talked to would support. We still keep a common armoury of some sort at New London too though. Maybe we relocate the Connecticut ones.

Well, a lot of people spoke against our purchase of this system. We should scratch that plan then.
But making this place our homebase should still be fine.
Zelot pointed out the advantage of flying into Kusarian space from there, so I sugguest we only start our hunts in Kusari from regular borders.
Liberty, Bretonia, Rheinland and the outcast worlds.
Using Baffin as a shortcut to the Taus or as a new door for new contracts should be fine, but not for the hunting purpose.

3) Ditch Star Wars : Become say, the Manchester Mercs. This is more radical and I dont necessarily support it, but it is worth debating. Manchester, because we got our start on Manchester's Sheffield station.

To be honest, I love the sound of "Mandalorian Mercs" and I have never ever thought of Star Wars a single second when beeing on my MM, or making the roleplay.
I would stay with this name, since its already well known and should be a tribute to the old members of the Mandalorians.
Only sharing the name could be fine, if we stay far away with our RP from the Star Wars universe, as we did in the past.
(I am not familiar with Star Wars, so I would not even be able to RP that :P)

4) The Dhawherd (Scout Arrows on 2 common accounts, which never get used): 4 alternatives :

a) Kill the Dhawherd. Part of Dianes ascendancy. Replace ships on common account with Anonymous battle ready ships. (Not just arrows) For instance MM~John.Smith. (I favour this alternative) (NOTE : This would be expensive. They have no armour, so armour alone for Cls 8 = 20 X 15 = $300 mill.)

b) Kill the Dhawherd, but dont replace them. Strip them and dont use the accounts.

c) Upgrade the Dhawherd. Get them useful ships and keep their names.

d) Change nothing. Keep Arrows on common accounts (which no one uses.)

For what would we use this account? And will it be used?
If we have shared accounts with fighters on it, we should give them shipnames. That way, everybody can keep his own RP.
Rping a MM~John.Smith would be hard for me, since I cant identify myself with him. And every enemy would meet a different RPed John.Smith, since the account is shared.
A shipname like the Hessians have [RHA]Volsung. No pilot ID in that name, so everybody could pilot it with "his" character.

And if we use them, I would go with option a) . If we fly them, we need the Armor Upgrades anyway.

5) Work for LN against RM, and also work for OC-aligned Rheinland unlawfuls : This could open up Rheinland unlawful ships, and means MM has more action, and also does the dirty work in Rheinland that perhaps Bretonia would favour (preferring the Liberty side of that war) but Bretonia would want no part of being seen to be involved.

Taking a side in the war could be good. I can imagine a liberty Admiral saying: "I've got an idea! The Mandalorians did a great job, relyable and deadly. Why dont we contract them for operations deep inside Rheinland?"

I would not limit us only against [RM], no against all Rheinland lawfull ships. Indies included, since there are not as many [RM] around like [LN]. We have already the problem in Kusari. Hardly ever [KNF] around.
(And keep different timezones in mind)

The problem with Bretonia bitching at us for shooting Rheinlanders and helping RHA is a good point, but we are already helping them. If we fly around in Alpha or get into fights with Corsairs, its common that some Hessians pop up and fly alongside us. And shooting Corsairs helps Bretonia as well as the Hessians.
I say, if the contracts are not against a faction for whom we work for, it should be ok.
Of course as long as its not as big as the Corsair Outcast or LN RM quarrel.
And there is still the option of "silent contracts", like we did for a few factions before. It will be official available on our contract list, but marked that its secret.
You are OOC informed about such contracts, but wont know them when roleplaying.

6) Gallia franchise : Work for Council et al against GRN. (Or the other way around, but fighting for Council against GRN makes more sense.) I've PM'd some of the Council players. Maybe we aren't even wanted, I don't yet know.

I would like to see Gallia getting implemented into the rest of Sirius.
Right now its a whole house somewhere, that somehow does not exist.
The RP is only inside Gallia and not spilling over the borders.
Lets make this happen. I would like to see Rheinlanders talking about Gallic guys.

7) Renew old expired contracts.
What about a Bretonian contract against the =CR= again, or shall we work for the BD or GC again?

If the =CR= are fine with that, we should pick that contract up again. Bretonia pays us for their heads.
As usual, no ganking.
Maybe get new contracts, in active areas. Rheinland unlawfull side was already mentioned. Maybe we can get fresh air into the contract list.

8) How to deal with the other Mercenaries guilds? (ie Reavers etc)
Could range from friendly rivalry to cold neutrality to out and out combat. (Killing the competition, cuththroat, eh?) I don't favour too radical an approach though. Cold Neutrality is fine by me.

I would be fine with the "Cold Neutral" thing. Since we work only on a contract basis, we hardly will cross our swords with the same single target.
If they are also hunting Corsairs, it should be "first to come first to serve" .
Maybe if numbers are uneven, we can intervene and make a beneficiary friendship for the duration of the fight.
Everyone would get payed, but by different cleints.
I hope you see the point here.

9) We need to get a Banker again. Someone who we can trust and someone who will look after our cash, items and the contract payments. Flo did an awesome job but currently isn't active enough. And if someone wants to offer to do this, I don't want one who offers and quits. Frankly I'd rather me and/or Malexa did it in our spare time, even if it meant less frequent invoicing.

I would be glad, if someone takes this post. Its good for our RP.
Its not that much work. You should keep an eye on the "Jobs done" list. If everybody uses our predefined forms, it is easy to keep track of the missing cash. (I will edit the predefined form a bit, so the banker can see the ammount of money in one blink.)
Just save all the forum names of the Clients(faction leaders or who is able to pay us) and PM them from time to time with the evidence.

Would ease things up for Dieter and myself, since we also have BAF/RM duties.


Thanks for the useful feedback until this point of the thread. Valuable thoughts and viewpoints on the MMs.

Malexa / Diana

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[Dieter Schprokets]

Actually Id hoped that much of the above could be interrelated

Malexa as a Mandalore comes to power, assassinating the Dhawherd, Ranovlas power base. (I got good story idea for that : leave that with me; trust me)

Part of the reason for the change is that Billy (me) and Diane (Malexa) disagree with Ranov strongly on RM and Gallia. We want to hunt them, he doesnt. We want to get involved in Gallia, he doesnt. Once the Dhawherd are killed, Ranovla flees into (hopefully temporary) exile.

Shortly after the changeover, we start hunting RM. BAF is very alarmed, and basically says Look, old chap, we cant have you dragging us into another war. Unofficially, of course we favour Libertys side, but we must keep up appearances. And getting involved in Gallia? You can still work for us, but maybe more on the sly. Can you make your centre of operations somewhere other than New London? Coronado is nice, I hear..

I dont see us changing the faction name, in spite of starwarsness, based on the feedback.

The Dhawherd are currently numbered, ie Dhawherd Solus literally means Stealth 5. (I think) We could just call the new ships MM~Solus. Literally, a Mandalorian scout/attack ship. Even more whacky, maybe we could get AI ID for them? Automated attack robot ships? Ooohh

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