Harvester Cruiser

[Ash]

To get an AI ID youve got to either be a Harvester or really put the effort into a convincing back story, biography or pitch.

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[Jinx]

while i support as free RP as possible - its also a bit confusing sometimes.

basicly - when i m playing a zoner, i m VERY suspicious when i see an AI ship. - a cruiser even more than a drone. - even to keep up with the current diplomatic relationship between harvesters and zoners isn t too easy sometimes - going from utterly hostile to a truce to hostile again etc.

when i see a player that is not a harvester ( and not an AI ) - i d not really know how to deal with it. ( which depends very much on the in-game RP ... but i daresay its hard to explain a forum story to everyone in-game )

but in-game RP is more important than forum RP.

it might work for very few players not having an AI ID, but i d rather not like it to be common practice much.


the "harvester ships" were made for ..... tadaaaa.... the harvesters, henceforth - a harvester ship usually contains a harvester unit. - when it does not ..... things are somewhat wrong.

AIs can be RPed in any ship - Harvesters and their AI alliance can use the harvester line.... when i m on patrol and i see a harvester ship approach, it d really need a pretty solid explanation.

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[Seth Karlo]

Ummm, pleasure robots? Must be more than one Zoner Guard ID'd AI cruiser running around.

Geisha, get off your high horse, it's not yours. I have no "link", I have quotes from the Admin team as a whole (I think they voted) saying it was ok, as the Special RP section was not open at that time. I apologise for not making one since then.

I am doing so now.

Jinx, a ship that is in this mod to buy as a free ship (IE: You don't need to be an admin to do so) means that it can't be limited to a single faction. It is not called the Harvester Cruiser, it is called the AI cruiser. I have a solid approach, and I have a solid RP behind it.

I will not let people tell me how to do something.

Seth

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[Darkard]

It is not called the Harvester Cruiser, it is called the AI cruiser

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[Seth Karlo]

Go scan one.

EDIT:

If you want a complicated answer, two things regard this. 1, a line in the ini file called ids_name, and a line called ids_info.

In the ids_name, Jinx put "Harvester Cruiser", as he always meant for it to be for the faction only. However, in a totally seperate file (ids_info), it was put as AI Cruiser.

Take it how you want. I am not a Harvester, (Actually, I'm not an AI either, go read the story), but I have the ship.

Oh, and I've posted the request.

EDIT2:

Could you please post a link where the Admins gave you the OKAY for the Ship without the AI ID?

Could you please post a link where it says you HAVE to have an AI ID to have the ship?

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[Jinx]

yes, you are correct - it is not a harvester ship as such. - cause we must not make custom faction ships. - its just the original idea of the ship - and like i said.... no problem to have a few special RP ships around.

it should just not become common practice. - such a ship needs a great deal of reputation not to be mistaken for the original purpose of the ship.

that means, when i see a special RP AI cruiser that is not a harvester - it must be easily recognizable as the special RP ship ( and the RP of the ship must be popular )

thats a very subjective thing of course.... - for example - zapps thundra liberty cruiser ( dunno if its still a cruiser ) - he made it popular enough ( subjectivly for me - again ) that i wouldn t mistake it for a liberty navy cruiser.

of course... RPing a nomad is easier in that case and messing up a nomad and a normal player isn t that hard.

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[Seth Karlo]

Jinx, it's tagged [TAZ]

Is that recognizable enough?

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[Jinx]

yes

either way - i never seen yours in space. - so what i said is not really directed at you - but rather in general.

if someone "rushes" into using such a ship he must be aware of certain problems. - although most players are aware of the speciality of many ships - they are still sometimes overwhelmed by the reactions they get ( in a negative way )

so i am sure that many players that wrote a perfect story and justified their use of the ship in a flawless way would still run into trouble ingame.

again - that is not about your ship. - it is about "special ships" in general.

in short...

- yes you can fly any ship with an appropriate RP
- but no, a perfect story and justification doesn t necessarily mean appropriate encounters ingame

when a player chooses a ship / equipment that is not fully supported by their faction ID, they must know 100% ( literally ) why they must use the special gear and why they just cannot use their faction gear at all. - and they should never get tired to tell everyone else about the "why" and "how" in RP ingame.

a lot of work for sometimes little gain. - the best RP is a RP that doesn t need the forum and is still convincable. - and the more a ship / equipment is away from the common faction choice, the harder that gets.

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[Seth Karlo]

Indeed. I have the problem you mentioned, but while I can write a dozen stories on the forums, a hundred feedback threads, and several dimplomatic situations, you can garuntee that there will still be 70% of the server that will never have heard of it.

There is only so much I can do.

Seth

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[Linkus]

The harvesters didn't put the effort into the community and server before 4.85.
The excuse was that they were waiting for their shiney ships.

In the end up, the ships were made AI ships instead and not solely Harvester ships.

ANY AI can use the AI Cruiser with approved roleplay.

That's what I gathered from various Admin posts.

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