Well, if you think removing these weapons would make it useless to use fighters, and make everyone else use gunboats, I'm going to believe yo guys because yo have better gaming experience.
Something else that could be done to make fighters a bit stronger would be to change the SNAC etc for new fighters that are actually sold on planets and that are better. Because the strongest fighter I've seen cost 6 mil. Why aren't there fighters that cost more than 6 mil? like 12 mil? Wouldn't it be cool? So that way, fighters could be played and they could fight gunboats and they wouldn't necessarily have super uber guns that seem to be magically sized down battleship guns. Then there could be class 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 guns and missiles for "new generation fighters". They would have better energy output, armor, weapon class, they could be even faster (because... the point of fighters is to be fast huh? just like RL jets).
And then they wouldn't use some weird guns found on wrecks that can blow up a whole gakaxy :P. Not to mention everyone uses it and no house has still mass produced them. It's illogical and it doesn't make sense fighter cod have s much powerful weapon.
After they get changed, it could be said that some guns we're taken by the navy forces of the houses and even some pirate (rumors) and they made researches to reproduce those "strange" weapons made with alien technology (OK i just made that up but that could make a reason for them to have been super strong for no reason without anyone to make more of them) and the others have been destroyed in the numerous fights they were used in. After years of research, scientists we're able to invent new weapons that coud be made and they were even able to create new generation fighters able to carry those powerful weapons. (They tried to use them to make larger ships but they couldn't find a source of energy powerful enough to make this new technology functional at such scale. Unfortunately, even now they couldn't match the power of the original weapons.
So, the point is, better weapons AND fighters, but to an extent. No exaggerating on their power but it makes them more interesting to use. And obviously, that wouldn't make them stronger than gunboats on every point. But they could still be better at some things than the bigger ships... which they are already, but at a higher level.
Even I personally, like I said, don't mind if I couldn't kill a gunboat with one fighter because that's pretty much normal. If I had badminton racket, I wouldn't try to play tennis.. if you see what I mean >.> Actually I'm a bit disappointed by you guys because what you are saying is like : what everyone wants to do is to be the most powerful guy on the server... and on a roleplay server, it shouldn't be like that.
EDIT: oh and.. even if battleships AREN'T that common, they shod be more important to the game, no? it would be cooler if people actually knew about them, just like those battleships stationed in systems (yeah those who never move xD)
Well. Only a BOmber can fire a SNAC. Or a SUper heavy fighter. Those vessels are hindered in their ability to destroy NON caps. A VHF rips a Bomber to shreds. Fighter are there for general offence, and shooting down the bombers. bombers shoot caps. Caps are for ripping evryone else.
Quote:And then they wouldn't use some weird guns found on wrecks that can blow up a whole gakaxy . Not to mention everyone uses it and no house has still mass produced them. It's illogical and it doesn't make sense fighter cod have s much powerful weapon.
Fighters dont use em anymore. Class 9 cannons are by far and large are better. A bomber is the only vessel able to chainfire codes enought to make them useful.
Quote:Even I personally, like I said, don't mind if I couldn't kill a gunboat with one fighter because that's pretty much normal.
Not really. Naval gunboats take more than one jet to take them out.something like a , oh say Torpedo is needed. in FL, this is a SNAC.but there needs to be more variety in torpedo's if you ask me. Nova rockets need to hit the shield generator, or there are worthless. Mini razor is rather small. But you CAN mount it on a fighter.
Quote:what everyone wants to do is to be the most powerful guy on the server... and on a roleplay server, it shouldn't be like that.
well we have things called LOLCaps.These people fly the biggest ships possible, and are only intrested in the Blue kill MSG. People like the [Cartel] who think its fun to run down a rhino with 7 OC GS's and demand 10 million.Its just that there powergaming takes over, and to maintain order, the good RPers get bombers, and there is again balance. Cut out bombers, and it becomes a GB world. OR admins get busy with .kill
Quote:EDIT: oh and.. even if battleships AREN'T that common, they shod be more important to the game, no? it would be cooler if people actually knew about them, just like those battleships stationed in systems (yeah those who never move xD)
well, I dont know what to do with the Cap 8 all official factions get. Probly sell it off. then buy system with it.
Yeah but you left a most of what I said and you keep saying ppl will use BS like crazy. but this post is actually mostly about removing capital ships from the hand of common players who only want to own ppl.
Quote:Even I personally, like I said, don't mind if I couldn't kill a gunboat with one fighter because that's pretty much normal.
By fighters I meant any type of fighter sine bombers ARE very heavy fighters.
And I don't know but all yo have done yet is complain on every single thing I suggested and I have the feeling that complaining on my ideas is all that your are actually trying to do and yo are not even trying to think if it might be a good idea or not.
Yeah kinda like keepers except they acquired through roleplay in events.
And if admins can't be bothered to take care of events maybe they could have moderators in game to do it.
And how they could choose the person who is going to earn the battleship, a system could be invented to choose who deserves it the most instead of only relying on what the moderator thinks. (Who made the event advance the most? Who took most part in it? Who did what eh was supposed to do the best? etc)
Yeah yo can pirate in a gunboat. but pirates are already pirating in gunboats so it doesn't change anything about that?
Yeah I didn't quite think of it. We coud come up with something to solve that problem.
I don't think that would be too hard to do: junkers would have a scrap metal gathering counter and they would have to sell a specified amount to by bigger ships?
I dunno that's the first idea that came up to my mind bumaybe I, or someone ese coud come p with some idea.
But I'm kinda disappointed that you are the only one posting in this topic :(
Its because a new guys ideas are generally ignored. masternerdguy kept raving about how FL should be like EVE. Its because we also JUST tried this. And it failed. Because People wont trust faction leaders to be responsible with handing out caps. I am a faction leader, but Corps dont use caps. so Ill sell the Cap 8, and buy a base...
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