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Irra · 07-05-2009, 10:28 AM,

I don't know whats powertrading ... i trade from time to time on my zoner whale ... i have 2 trade routes and both start and end at zoner bases ... i don't know ... let people trade ... i don't know whats wrong ... zoners should be big group trading and going everywhere ... not sure is there much more IDs that allow 5k ship ...

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Ra! · 07-05-2009, 12:29 PM,

Everyone is worried about the fact that ZG ID'd characters smuggle commodities.

Most powertraders smuggle. Lets get that clear.

Whether it be Cardamine, Slaves, Artifacts, Whatever.. (Which i agree is powertrading)

So, put simply... You edit the ID to say that Zoners cant smuggle..

Zoners shouldnt be smuggling anyway. How do they explain it to the authorities when they get seen, even once? How do they plan to revive their neutrality once they have been branded as a smuggler?

Smugglers should be using the SMUGGLER ID. The name sort've gives it away...

n00bl3t · 07-05-2009, 02:45 PM,

' Wrote:Everyone is worried about the fact that ZG ID'd characters smuggle commodities.

Most powertraders smuggle. Lets get that clear.

Whether it be Cardamine, Slaves, Artifacts, Whatever.. (Which i agree is powertrading)

So, put simply... You edit the ID to say that Zoners cant smuggle..

Zoners shouldnt be smuggling anyway. How do they explain it to the authorities when they get seen, even once? How do they plan to revive their neutrality once they have been branded as a smuggler?

Smugglers should be using the SMUGGLER ID. The name sort've gives it away...

Decent suggestion. Amendment would be that Zoners cannot smuggle in house space.

Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

Benjamin · 07-05-2009, 04:13 PM,

Nooblet, if you need proof of the fundamental reason behind the existence of zoners....

Join Cryer Pharmaceuticals

AdamantineFist · 07-05-2009, 06:38 PM,

I am behind Dab and his post fully and completely. This makes perfect sense to me. Then again, we Buccaneers DO like the fat, juicy, and above all, defenceless Zoner Whales...:P... but yeah, excellent suggestion indeed.

n00bl3t · (This post was last modified: 07-06-2009, 01:44 AM by n00bl3t.)

' Wrote:Nooblet, if you need proof of the fundamental reason behind the existence of zoners....

Not against the fundamental reason for their foundation, but proof saying that they never go into house space and that they never interact with houses, because, as far as I know, no such proof exists.

If no such proof exists, your point about how it is OoRP for a Zoner to go into house space is moot.

If proof exists that some Zoners still go into house space, then RP freedom should be allowed, so the proposal is moot.

Edit:

' Wrote:What in-game rumours and news items? (Specific SS'd ones, because I would really like to know.)

Still waiting.

Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

Baltar · 07-06-2009, 03:53 AM,

I agree with you, Dab ... these guys choose these Zoner ID's and complain when they get pirated.

Oh ... and have you noticed the large number of anti-pirate posts lately? Yeah ... people complaining about pirates in gunboats ... gee ... wonder why that is? Maybe because we've got SOOO many of these 5k transports running to and fro ... ya think? And these traders complain when pirates ask for a measly 3 mil.

**Doc Holliday** · 07-06-2009, 04:35 AM,

' Wrote:I agree with you, Dab ... these guys choose these Zoner ID's and complain when they get pirated.

I can see that you and some other miss the point that I made on one of those anti-pirate threads. I don't complain about getting pirated but what I do complain about is when that same pirate still thinks it's OK to land on Freeports. It's bad RP.

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Malaclypse 666 · 07-06-2009, 05:12 AM,

' Wrote:I agree with you, Dab ... these guys choose these Zoner ID's and complain when they get pirated.

Oh ... and have you noticed the large number of anti-pirate posts lately? Yeah ... people complaining about pirates in gunboats ... gee ... wonder why that is? Maybe because we've got SOOO many of these 5k transports running to and fro ... ya think? And these traders complain when pirates ask for a measly 3 mil.

Baltar · 07-06-2009, 07:14 AM,

' Wrote:I can see that you and some other miss the point that I made on one of those anti-pirate threads. I don't complain about getting pirated but what I do complain about is when that same pirate still thinks it's OK to land on Freeports. It's bad RP.

And you haven't read everything I've written have you? I stated clearly that it is OORP for anyone to destroy a faction member and then dock on their base (regardless of their faction ID). Please go back and read what I've written before scolding me and making claims I don't know what I'm talking about.

I freaking agree with you on the matter of anyone destroying a Zoner vessel and then docking on a Freeport (even though not all Freeports are owned by Zoners).

Geez man ... read what I've freaking written.

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