Zoner Bounty RP

[Quorg]

And yet, Its -tottaly- understandable that a faction with another faction's leader name in their name DEFIANTELY FOR SURE isnt related in any way whatsoever...

So then, how are we as players going to sort this out?

Done. Their "secret" ain't a secret any more. Now we can all be happy because the response is RP'd out and the QCP don't get off as acting independently, which they don't.

Goodnight, folks.

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ATTENTION SMUGGLERS
The Midnight Express: A Slaver <strike>who doesn't completely realize what he's doing.</strike> (video)

Quorg, you're officially a moron.

...mongs like Quorg being like a malignant little cancer...

Way to be useless, Quorg.

[Rudo]

Done. Their "secret" ain't a secret any more. Now we can all be happy because the response is RP'd out and the QCP don't get off as acting independently, which they don't.

Goodnight, folks.

That's a start.

Now, keep it friendly or go headbutt your fridge until you are no longer angry and/or comatose. Not just you. I mean everybody that reads this.

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[bluntpencil2001]

Done. Their "secret" ain't a secret any more. Now we can all be happy because the response is RP'd out and the QCP don't get off as acting independently, which they don't.

Goodnight, folks.

We won't be accepting testimony obviously gotten via torture, sorry.

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[bluntpencil2001]

USA - IRAQ war is nothing more than a idiotic president looking for weapons of mass destruction where there actually were none. There ARE Terrorists there and it is a victory that it was wiped of them, this is not an accurate analogy.

There ARE terrorists on Gran Canaria too. And the USA does bomb civilians if there are terrorists nearby. 'Unintentionally' of course.

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[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

Well, then, If you plan on bombing corsairs within our NFZ, Then the "civillians nearby" will just have to BOMB you back.

[bluntpencil2001]

Well, then, If you plan on bombing corsairs within our NFZ, Then the civillians will just have to BOMB you back.

The thing is, you weren't just letting them in due to threats, they were all cosy, taking advantage of NFZs which only benefit pirates.

That's aiding and abetting, that is!

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[n00bl3t]

Go into Omega 3 and tell me that BAF NPCs abide by NFZs, Noobl3t.

Also tell me what you would do if you knew murderers were hiding on, say a Freeport, that wasn't able to stop you dealing with them.

We ignore them. Either that, or people begin forwarding complaints for hostility based on NPC's not scanning my ID before they attack, due to my IFF and reputation, or them demanding cargo which I am legally allowed to carry.

Your second line makes little sense to me. Re-phrase or do not.

@ n00blet: Feel free to indulge yourself in conspiracies then. If you want to have a diplomacy shield then you need to work for it, and not just decide you have one because you have a Zoner tag, it's that simple.

I am indulging myself on one of my cruisers in-game.

What you are saying is akin to saying that Bretonian players need to prove they own Bretonia. In short, New London is now a Zoner base.

Seriously, it is though. Never mind the fact it is coded as a Bretonian base, never mind the written infocard. Screw it all. Zoners now own it according to RP. What do you mean it is meta-gaming? No, I dismiss that. Why? I can make all these RL relations, even though FL is not RL. No, even though FL is not RL I can still do that and this as long as there is some RL precedent.

Talk to some Bretonian players? Why would I do that? I mean, it is not like it is their coded in, role-play which I strolled over with boots that are over 9000 tonnes in weight. No, it is not, regardless of what you say.

You can buy it back off us for 200 billion.

Tell that to USA in Iraq.

Or we can use the analogy of Israel soldiers to Palestinian civilians. (I wonder which one will get the thread locked sooner?)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Jinx]

a huge bit of drama here....

first things first....

if the QCP violates our NFZ, they get shot ( the attack is not the first shot fired, the attack is done by those that violate the NFZ ) - we even shot the GMG and the order when they violate the NFZ. - that is our laws, they are enforced - and other factions can be happy that wee only claim so little space around our stations.

secondly...

everyone has the right to turn hostile to zoners..... IF they have the guts and the responsibility to become bloody red to zoners, too. - it is fully acceptable to shoot zoners with enough RP reasons! - but if you stay green or white to zoners after you did so, you are not roleplaying seriously.
so if you attack zoners, as a whole; if you disrespect their claims, their laws, you MUST make yourself RED to zoners and zoner guards - and you will stay away from purchasing zoners stuff, you will not go near zoner installations without being shot at. and you will stay that way not until YOU decide you can improve your faction standing, but until the zoners decide you can improve it again.

thirdly...

aside from the fact that i believe that the connections between the QCP and the bretonian goverment are somewhat obvious. - and that its sort of political suicide to aim at zoners in such an incident ( or to fight within 5k around zoner installations when they have their laws there ) - i am surprised at the very hostile tone from both sides.

maybe it wasn t a great decision to place a bounty without any reason on a whole faction ( always problematic ) - maybe it wasn t a good idea to fly to 49 with a wing of QCP and fire at corsairs ( even if the omegas are not excluded from the IDs ZoI ) - but things happen. - maybe it wasn t the best decision to attack the QCP for violating the NFZ laws ( although i support that decision, but that doesn t mean its a good one )

but the discussion become utterly personal in that thread. - i haven t seen much of what the QCP is about and what impact it has on the politics of the house. what i have read here is justifications, accusations and all OOC - its players yelling at players, not QCP yelling at zoners.

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[n00bl3t]

The thing is, you weren't just letting them in due to threats, they were all cosy, taking advantage of NFZs which only benefit pirates.

That's aiding and abetting, that is!

Do I have to spell it out for you? Privateer actions are not endorsed by the Bretonian government in any way, but they aren't committing any crimes in Bretonia now are they? So how can you expect Bretonian law to prosecute them?

Aiding and abetting? Under what laws?

Seems like Bretonian one's end in Bretonian space.

You cannot eat your cake and still have it.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Tenshu]

Bluntpencil. You need to look at this differently than you currently are. This has only been brought up because of the QCP attacks and bounty. Zoners have always been the same, we have not changed and I remember that we were on relatively good terms before this fiasco. Corsairs are treated like everyone else. That is the original Zoner faction RP. Are you saying that we need to change this. I think thats for the admins to decide.

And if you are going to complain over how we are dealing with them then you need to actually go into our discussions and look at why we are doing it. One of the major issues is that Corsairs and Zoners are very close to each other. Zoners are primarily a peaceful, good relations type while the corsairs are a more shoot and give me money kind of people. We need to deal with them to keep them happy or else what else can we do otherwise. Just die?

Your nation never had any real problems with us before except with a naming issue.

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