Division 18

[komet]

Um, I've read the lore, and according to the lore, Division 18 is not exactly the same as the wild.

They apparently have control over most of the government, but only the government. Unlike the wilde, they don't have a military wing and are pretty much hang around the government. So I don't think a Division 18 faction would work, well not yet. If Liberty found out their government was controlled by Division 18 (which is controlled by nomads), then they would prolly oust them. At that point, the Division 18 might form a military wing to take back Liberty, which is pretty much the same thing the Wilde had to go through during vannilla FL campaign.

But I haven't read other peoples posts, so I could be wrong. Just giving my 2 cents.

As I said earlier, Division 18 is something new and can definitely be added on to.

I mean (as I said before), why not add a highly trained fighter wing onto Division 18 so they have a way of taking care of people who don't agree with them or are their enemies?

If anyones interested in working on this together, PM me and I'll send you accouple links

see if we cant create some kinda lore for it

I'll contact you ASAP.

Lets see if we can get things going...

[Janus]

On the intel thing, I was talking about the LSF rather than Division 18/Nomads, although the point applies to Division 18 as well.

Freelancer isn't really friendly to covert ops as soon as you get tagged your alligiance is broadcast from miles away. The only effective way I can think of doing it would be being friendly to Nommies so they didn't shoot you, but not friendly enough to get IFF'd, along with a Nommie ID. At least that way you'd have to get in scan range to get 'caught'.

[Das Wilde Wesen]

The Wild (Player faction) has several subgroups. 1 of those is Das Wilde (player name Wilde.Name) and is our main focus. Another is the Kusari Wild, (player name Iseijin-Name). There are other subgroups, but I will not divulge them for now.

One of the subgroups is Division 18. It is under the control of the Wild Player Faction (who use the Wild ID for all their non-covert ships) and there it will remain. Like "independent" Wilde, We deny everything.

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[Exile]

Division 18 is not a Wilde subgroup. It's public propperty of the Nomad community. Currently, we have more Keepers in D18 than we have Wilde doing... Anything but Wilde.

An actual ingame way of making this works exists, in my eyes, only in one way. The way how Ench/Bligther proposed it to me quite some time ago. Basicly, she had the idea to 'melt' D18 with the LN. Basicly, you'd reach a high rank in the LN and you could chose. Do you want to go the D18-LN route? or the LN-LN route? Both would have their own advantages and disatvantages. LN would be pure military, whilst D18 would invole in 'behind the scene' workings. Though, IRP, D18 members wouldn't even know their leaders are Nomads. That's how Division 18 goes. Secret, hiding, behind scenes, confusing. Not like your generic Wilde 'Let's shoot them all'.

I'll contact you ASAP.

Lets see if we can get things going...

There is a lore for it, it's called 'The Nomad Lore'. Creating a faction with Division.18 Tags screaming they're D18 ect ect would, quite franlky, rape that lore.

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[NewOrder]

There is a lore for it, it's called 'The Nomad Lore'. Creating a faction with Division.18 Tags screaming they're D18 ect ect would, quite franlky, rape that lore.

If your worried it would turn into a lolwutt faction, dont. Member selection would be very similar to the selection of phantoms, and nomads, with a extensive RP background and comprehension of D18. Tags? there would be none that would defeat the purpose. I dont know about ID's. It would be a tightnit group, not a openly recruiting one.

[farmerman]

Doesn't it already exist as an extension of the Wild faction?

Edit: Apparently what I was thinking about was lost to the mysterious of time and never surfaced as I thought.

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Faction info links: Samura Heavy Industries : LWB : Watchers

[reavengitair]

Doesn't it already exist as an extension of the Wild faction?

I thought it did.

[komet]

Alright, this is going to be another huge post. In order to save space, I am going to snip the quotes I use.

On the intel thing ... Freelancer isn't really friendly to covert ops as soon as you get tagged your alligiance is broadcast from miles away. The only effective way I can think of doing it would be being friendly to Nommies so they didn't shoot you, but not friendly enough to get IFF'd, along with a Nommie ID...

This is exactly what I was thinking! For example:

Here's a rough draft of command structure, naming convention, and loadout stuffs:

Command echelon-Nomad possessed humans - Gives orders to the lower echelons and deals with the political side of things along with communicating with other Nomad groups.

- Leader(Without cover): Delta-18.Name, LSF tag, Nomad/Nomad Guard ID, maybe some Nomad weapons or equipment included (not fully Nomad loadout), ships can include Liberty ship line.
- Leader(Undercover): Name, LSF tag and LSF Guard ID, no Nomad weapons, Liberty ship line.

Mid echelon:- Nomad possessed humans - Posses as lawful agents of the Liberty government who pass down orders to the Lower echelon and make sure no word about the Division's true agenda get out. They will also make sure that the Division's agenda is carried out as planned.

- Agents: Delta-18.Name, LSF tag, LSF/LSF Guard ID, some kind of combination of Nomad weapons and equipment with Liberty lawful weapons, Liberty ship line.

Lower echelon: - Consists of full Nomads (Assassins) and Nomad possessed humans (Assassins or Enforcers) - This echelon operates under complete secrecy, maintain allegiance to factions least expected of working with Division 18. This echelon is in charge of carrying out both the Higher and Middle echelons' dirty work.

- Assassins: Name, Nomad/LSF tag (depending on whether it's a full Nomad or a possessed human) Nomad/Nomad Guard ID/, Full on Nomad weapons and equipment, or Nomad weapons combined with human equipment, Nomad Assassin and Liberty ship line
- Enforcers: Name["Possessed faction name] etc.

The Wild (Player faction) has several subgroups. 1 of those is Das Wilde ... Another is the Kusari Wild, ... There are other subgroups, but I will not divulge them for now.

One of the subgroups is Division 18. It is under the control of the Wild Player Faction (who use the Wild ID for all their non-covert ships) and there it will remain. Like "independent" Wilde, We deny everything.

I don't understand how the Wild (whom, according to the Lore, are Rheinland only) are controlling a Nomad affiliated group in Liberty. Well, I could see how that is working out in the grand scheme of things, but this means the Lore is either incorrect or needs to be updated.

If the Lore does need to be changed to say this, than it should be done. I really would like the idea of creating a quasi-Nomad faction in Liberty and I know it's possible if it is just given a chance.

Anywho, if it is the Wild who control Division 18, then so be it. It would just be nice if it was posted somewhere that this is the case...

Division 18 is not a Wilde subgroup. It's public propperty of the Nomad community. Currently, we have more Keepers in D18 than we have Wilde doing... Anything but Wilde.

An actual ingame way of making this works exists, in my eyes, only in one way. The way how Ench/Bligther proposed it to me quite some time ago. Basicly, she had the idea ... you'd reach a high rank in the LN and you could chose. Do you want to go the D18-LN route? or the LN-LN route? Both would have their own advantages and disatvantages. ...t D18 would invole in 'behind the scene' workings. Though, IRP, D18 members wouldn't even know their leaders are Nomads. That's how Division 18 goes. Secret, hiding, behind scenes, confusing...

There is a lore for it, it's called 'The Nomad Lore'. Creating a faction with Division.18 Tags screaming they're D18 ect ect would, quite franlky, rape that lore.

So, does Division 18 already exist as a player faction? Or is this just theory/ideas? I like Ench/Bligther's idea but I have never heard of it before this point. Once again, it would be nice if people posted these things somewhere, but as it is, there appears to be a misscomuncation going on between the Wilde and the Keepers leaders.

Anywho, I'm going to start adding my ideas to the OP just to show another angle on the faction.

Meh.

[Das Wilde Wesen]

Here is how it is.

Praetyre formed Das Wilde. We did Rheinland things, for about 2 days. Then he disappeared from Disco.

After a few months of inactivity, I took over the faction. At that point, with the blessings of the admins, I changed us from Das Wilde into The Wild. This is simlar to the old [SA] becoming the [LN] or [QCRF] becoming the BAF|.

"Wild" denotes any Nomadized human in Sirius, no matter if it is a Libertarian Wild or a Rheinland Wild or a Gallic Wild. So, The Wild (Player faction, using "The Wild" ID/Tag) encompasses all Nomadized humans in Sirius, and we have operations in the 4 major Houses, and bits and pieces in the underworld/Hispanic nations.

The Wild Player Faction has several "wings" if you will. Some are stronger then others (Das Wilde) some are almost non-present (Iseijin). This is both deliberate and a symptom of some plans falling through. All the wings use the "Wild" ID and Tag, unless they are "covert" in which case only the player and relevant faction leaders know who they are.

Exile is correct, D18 is not a subgroup of Das Wilde it is a subgroup of The Wild player faction.

I will look at the Lore when I can to see if it needs revising. But I did PM you the basics of this information, and I am sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

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[Turkish]

Hmm, I remember when Praetyre formed Das Wilde and we were invited. We saw a spark of life, then his odd departure and our eventual inactivity. Good to see things all alive still.

Divison 18 can be applied nicely, but I think the backing of The Wilde as a player faction is the cohesive foundation that its nature requires to be operable.

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