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Offline Eppy
08-28-2009, 11:10 PM,
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My name is Nonagon House, and I Approve Both of the Previous Messages.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Offline Enko
08-28-2009, 11:11 PM,
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Seth, add my skype yuiitsuenko, then we can go off to my private server and have this little match.

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Offline Seth Karlo
08-28-2009, 11:20 PM,
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Tomorrow, when I'm sober. Dusty has ordered me off the forums D:

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Offline Seth Karlo
08-29-2009, 11:05 PM,
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I am... shocked.

And I have realised the problem. We tested first with a Bretonian Battleship, and then with a Lib Dread versus the Kusari Battleship. Then I checked the numbers.

The Kusari Battleship has the front profile of a Liberty Dreadnought, while having the powercore of a Rhienland battleship.

Not only that, it can turn easier than a Bretonian battleship.

That is not just unbalanced, that is over the top neglect. I have my reasons as to why this has been ignored, but this is lunacy. It need's one or two of the following:

-Powercore reduction
-Increase of width by 10-15%
-Removal of 2 or three forward firing turrets.

The problem is not the Bretonian battleship, it is the Kusari one.

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Offline Eppy
08-29-2009, 11:11 PM,
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' Wrote:I am... shocked.

And I have realised the problem. We tested first with a Bretonian Battleship, and then with a Lib Dread versus the Kusari Battleship. Then I checked the numbers.

The Kusari Battleship has the front profile of a Liberty Dreadnought, while having the powercore of a Rhienland battleship.

Not only that, it can turn easier than a Bretonian battleship.

That is not just unbalanced, that is over the top neglect. I have my reasons as to why this has been ignored, but this is lunacy. It need's one or two of the following:

-Powercore reduction
-Increase of width by 10-15%
-Removal of 2 or three forward firing turrets.

The problem is not the Bretonian battleship, it is the Kusari one.

-Seth

I feel like Commander Riker screaming 'I'M NOT CRAZY!' in that one episode of ST:TNG.

That said, I still want to build this thing after I finish my other three projects because I think it's incredibly cool.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Offline Seth Karlo
08-29-2009, 11:13 PM,
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Go for it, by all means. However, we put a Lib Dread versus a Rhienland BS, I defeated it.

But, any BS against that Kusari one... it's madness... who the heck balanced that!?

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Offline Drake
08-30-2009, 12:06 AM,
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' Wrote:-Increase of width by 10-15%
That will never happen, since it would require altering a vanilla model, and that's just taboo.

Like someone else mentioned, Bretonia has pretty inferior battleship primary turrets, for some reason. That can't help matters.
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Offline Enko
08-30-2009, 04:00 AM,
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Lib Dread with Lib Turrets didnt fair any better, however.

I still want to see this Dread complete even if Ku BS vs Bret BS was balanced.

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Offline Eppy
08-30-2009, 04:32 AM,
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' Wrote:That will never happen, since it would require altering a vanilla model, and that's just taboo.

Like someone else mentioned, Bretonia has pretty inferior battleship primary turrets, for some reason. That can't help matters.

I hate to say it, but that's an actual, honest-to-god conspiricah. I'm sure there's something about it on the Dev forums somewhere.

And yes, unfortunately, modifying a vanilla model would be a bad idea. Therefore, NERFT.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Offline Seth Karlo
08-30-2009, 05:52 PM,
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So nerf the powercore. It doesn't matter what is done, as long as something is done...

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