IAF (Independent Abolitionist Force)

[Wuselkobold]

I can turn your question around? How many pirate groups do we need on this server?

To actually answer it:
We are not planning to lurk around Jumpholes waiting for smugglers all the time. We'll have a broad variety of RP possibilities with this new grup, and we plan to use them.
Its not only about shooting Slavers, but to actually help those people we rescue. To establish relations to other groups and deal with the.
We also won't forget IMG's the mining and trading aspects, we'll try to make our ZOI a safer place to be in fou our friends too.
We are not lolwutters, we want to RP and have fun on this server. I'm sorry you feel that way, but that won't stop us from trying it.

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A wild goose chase (RP story)

[CaltuRe]

As I think if you want to destroy slavers and to be an IMG better make it like a strike group. Just fighters/bombers and maybe a few gunboats(like a HS.| was, they were the best anti slavers dudes).
Defend the bases if it needed and try to stop slavers.
And you don't need in any caps. More caps - more problems like asteroid fields, also you need in a shipyards to repair it and etc.

[OutlawBullet]

As I think if you want to destroy slavers and to be an IMG better make it like a strike group. Just fighters/bombers and maybe a few gunboats(like a HS.| was, they were the best anti slavers dudes).
Defend the bases if it needed and try to stop slavers.
And you don't need in any caps. More caps - more problems like asteroid fields, also you need in a shipyards to repair it and etc.

That and most traders don't exactly have an army of their friends. In Liberty I try to stay hidden because that is what smuggling is all about. Then what? You blow my transport to bits? I doubt that would sit well with Outcasts, Smugglers, Slave Traders and allies of the Outcast.

So that's really my only gripe. No-one can stop a skilled smuggler anyhow. Too many choices etc.

[Friday]

A Battleship PLUS 3 Battlecruisers PLUS assorted smaller craft = FLEET.

Unless I see an official statement from the IMG faction stating they are devoting the resources necessary to maintain this FLEET - then I cannot take this proposal seriously.

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[Wuselkobold]

That and most traders don't exactly have an army of their friends. In Liberty I try to stay hidden because that is what smuggling is all about. Then what?

The Taus are next door to Alpha. You would be astonished how some slavers can summon a whole Outcast battlegrouw within minutes just to protect their A-Train.

You blow my transport to bits? I doubt that would sit well with Outcasts, Smugglers, Slave Traders and allies of the Outcast.

So that's really my only gripe. No-one can stop a skilled smuggler anyhow. Too many choices etc.

Oh, I don't care if Outcasts, Smugglers, Slave Traders and allies of the Outcasts like what we do or not. If a Xeno demands my cargo I don't have to like it either, but he doesn't care. As long its in RP its fine.

A Battleship PLUS 3 Battlecruisers PLUS assorted smaller craft = FLEET.

Unless I see an official statement from the IMG faction stating they are devoting the resources necessary to maintain this FLEET - then I cannot take this proposal seriously.

I find that hilarious. Each and every indy can have as many caps as he wants, but as soon as it comes to new factions wanting them, a flame war starts.
We already have clearly stated what we intend to do with these ships. They are RP patforms. Since when is RP frowned upon on this server? We are not going to lolraid Alpha or anything along that lines.
Those ships are supposed to be a home away from home, mobule bases if you like. One more reason we use them is to avaid retaliation against regular IMG installations.
Sure its difficult to maintain this 'fleet'(group) but hey, if we can RP that why not? It is a good way to interact with other groups too, pay traders to bring us stuff and whatnot.
For the concerns about shipyards - IMG has a huge installation in Omega 3 for that purpose.

We actually have one of those ships we'd like to have and I don't think this will change soon.
If you don't look for our capships, you'll most likely never see one anyway.

I'd like to hear official IMGs statement about this too, I'm curious how they see it.

Anyway, maybe we'll just scap the idea and create another Oucast/Corsair/Zoner Supercyborg/immigrants from outer space/ghosts/robots/whatever group if thats better?

At least give us a chance and judge us for our RP actions in game and here on the forum and not just because you read 'capital ships' and think 'flame it!'

Thanks

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A wild goose chase (RP story)

[Friday]

You call this a flame? A tad sensitive I should think...

If you want to be an indy and fly around in whatever lolcap you see fit - sure go ahead. We in the GMG see them fly by every other day.

If, however, you want to be an actual faction - then you should be prepared to face scrutiny, ESPECIALLY from the people you intend to interact with!

So again, who is funding your fleet?

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[Darkavatar]

You call this a flame? A tad sensitive I should think...

Of course Wuselkobold is a little sensitive, people are implying that he just wants to be a lolwut in a cap and it can be insulting to some one who wants to RP. Meanwhile if we were lolwuts would just of bought the cap and started to raid alpha. We wouldn't be on the forums making a feedback thread to discuss our faction, nor would be care to respond. But we are.

If you want to be an indy and fly around in whatever lolcap you see fit - sure go ahead. We in the GMG see them fly by every other day.
I'm not addressing a flame.

If, however, you want to be an actual faction - then you should be prepared to face scrutiny, ESPECIALLY from the people you intend to interact with!

Once again we wouldn't be posting here, if we weren't. Any legitimate question may be asked and any criticism or advice will taken into consideration. However just because someone disagrees we are not just going to capitulate to their demands like trained dogs because they said so. The notion that any one who as a cruiser or battleship is immediately a lolwut and needs to be stopped is wrong. Give us a chance actually prove that they will be rp platforms. Will not be using them in such a way that harms others game play.

So again, who is funding your fleet?
I answered this before but I wlll again but in a bit more detail. We a funding our operations ourselves. We have traders and miners making runs to make money for the faction. For the construction of ships we mine the resources that we need, and if we can't we purchase those goods. Regardless of their source the materials are taken to Aland Shipyard where the craftsmen there create our new ships or repair ones currently in use. Impromptu everyday maintenance will happen on our (one and only) Carrier.

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[darthbeck]

As the IMG's Defense division leader, i support This. I talked to Wuselkobold On skype about my concerns, and things he should know about.

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[ProwlerPC]

I've talked with Wuselkobold on Skype and I am convinced enough to see them give it a try.

I too voiced my concerns to him and I'll place them here and not hide it from the public.

Well it was the caps really, or more particularly the BCs, that concerned me. The Carrier as a home. Got no problem at that thought, doesn't even make me blink.
I feel that the RP of the BCs are a bit in Limbo on the other hand. Sadly it's based on what the ship is; an assault ship by design. But in the end it is how we RP the ships in-game that matters and that is what the IMG make.
I do feel that Wuselkobold is a fine roleplayer, I've interacted with him in-game on several occasions. I'm willing to see him have a chance with these RP platforms. At least they are limiting their numbers and who uses them which is more than can be said by many groups on the server. If I read right that they will be dispersed then that too reassures me that the only 5 (for example) members don't all jump into shared accounts and romp around together in caps. I'm willing to give them a chance and see if this works out right.
I should mention that you will find some use for them. When you harrass smugglers near Alpha the OCs do come. Been there and love to keep doing it.
But still there is still a RP hole in my mind concerning the BCs, something that places a light blanket over it's assault-suggestive title. Give them their own title and provide them with a stated function and purpose (each, if they spread out because one in the Sigmas will be under different pressures than one in the Omegas, for example), like support ships, command centers and diplomatic envoys outside of house space. Something more than just being there.

As I said we talked alot on Skype and I am willing to give him a chance and watch how this develops.

I don't have any issues with the rest really. You've focused your scope a fair amount, but at least there is no shortage of slave trade. For the moment.........takes one update to change all that, just so you know.

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[CaltuRe]

And you will try to stop only transports with slaves, or with cardie too?
& hope this Fleet wouldn't sit just in front of Alpha, because not only Outcasts are using slavers.