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Darkavatar · (This post was last modified: 10-21-2009, 11:32 AM by Darkavatar.)

Quote:[10:10:07 AM] Joe (Jihad): (I think)
[10:10:14 AM] Joe (Jihad): abd those are labeled as IMG ships
[10:10:32 AM] Joe (Jihad): They should allow IMG guard tagged/ID'd people to go get the ships.

that is all. Any way we are going to ask that the Nyx and the Zephyr be sold in Tau-39 (since the system was never completed by the system designer) If that happens you will never see an IAF tagged ship in Tau-44 to buy an IMG ship. If you want to attack us over a OORP issue then go right ahead.

Quote:And Iam still amazed how hard you people try to just fly in and buy that ship instead of engaging talks in the diplomatic channels

We shouldn't have to beg and possibly bribe another faction to get our own NPC faction aligned ships. If you were zoners and we wanted to use a zoner ship while we were aligned with the IMG NPC faction then, yes we would of made a diplo thread.

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~~Divine~~ · 10-21-2009, 11:43 AM,

' Wrote:...
If you want to attack us over a OORP issue then go right ahead.
We shouldn't have to beg and possibly bribe another faction to get our own NPC faction aligned ships. If you were zoners and we wanted to use a zoner ship while we were aligned with the IMG NPC faction then, yes we would of made a diplo thread.

All rights and construction plans regarding the Zephyr class Carrier are in full ownership of the CR. The infocard reading it as an IMG ship is an error, only god may know why it isnt fix'd yet.
And we dont attack anything over 'OORP' reasons, when we attack your ships then because we have a RP reason to do so, in your case namely, trespassing our system and trying to obtain (better say 'steal') highly secured material.
That is also the reason you cant just build a Zephyr at Aland, you dont have the needed construstion plans to do so.

And you dont impress anyone with your obstinacy to avoid diplomatic talks. Others have done before and failed. Others engaged negotiations with us, and have gotten what they asked for.
You are making yourself and your men a bad start, but that is up to you.

However, enter our territory without permission and we will kindly show you the exit.

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Darkavatar · 10-21-2009, 11:45 AM,

Do as you wish. I am not responding to any other post of this matter.

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CzeReptile · 10-21-2009, 11:49 AM,

Do as you wish. Keep in mind that attempts to cross into the system will be met with proper response.

10-21-2009, 12:23 PM,

Jesus Christ people.
Did I really spend a year in the Colonial Remnant with you?
Are you really those same people?
Where's all this hostility to anyone outside the group coming from?
I mean really.
These people here, good players or not, we don't know yet, are trying to establish a faction.
Some of you are prejudging them and even trying to forbid them from using their own bloody ships.

Get a grip. Jesus.
Do what you want with your system allowances, but you must not forbid access to IMG ships to the IMG NPC faction and that's that.

You're just creating a bad image of the Colonial Remnant, an image of people apart from this community, ones who are closed and dislike the rest of the community.
If that's true, then I'm appalled to see what a year of dedicated work of mine has fallen to, and if it is not, then stop acting like it.

I believe we have an answer to the question at hand.
Zephyr = IMG ship.
IAF| = IMG NPC faction.
Zephyr sold only in Tau 44.

All this amounts to "You can't forbid them from buying Zephyrs."

So please, Artur, Meek, Pavel, Andrej, Rob, stop being wankers to these people here.

Christ almighty..

CzeReptile · 10-21-2009, 12:25 PM,

Argh how about they at least CONTACT us first?

10-21-2009, 12:29 PM,

Sure, they should contact you.
After all, you're going to be working in the same area and you need to establish a diplomacy.
But when it comes to them setting up characters and buying ships, you just can't and can't forbid them from buying their own ships.
Put yourself in their shoes.
What if the IMG| told you you can't buy Atlases 'cause they're on Aland? Hm?

10-21-2009, 12:33 PM,

' Wrote:All rights and construction plans regarding the Zephyr class Carrier are in full ownership of the CR. The infocard reading it as an IMG ship is an error, only god may know why it isnt fix'd yet.
And we dont attack anything over 'OORP' reasons, when we attack your ships then because we have a RP reason to do so, in your case namely, trespassing our system and trying to obtain (better say 'steal') highly secured material.
That is also the reason you cant just build a Zephyr at Aland, you dont have the needed construstion plans to do so.

And you dont impress anyone with your obstinacy to avoid diplomatic talks. Others have done before and failed. Others engaged negotiations with us, and have gotten what they asked for.
You are making yourself and your men a bad start, but that is up to you.

However, enter our territory without permission and we will kindly show you the exit.

Please, sir, avoid talking about things you know nothing about.
Such silly and careless statements from junior members only hurt your faction.

I've never been one to go against the Colonial Remnant in a discussion, especially at the times of the OoRP conflict with the IMG|, but this one here is a bit silly.

Please. Don't embarrass yourself.

~~Divine~~ · 10-21-2009, 12:36 PM,

@ Dr. Beardface:

OHAI Karlotta, back again?

Check post No. 40.

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10-21-2009, 12:36 PM,

' Wrote:@ Dr. Beardface:

OHAI Karlotta, back again?

Check post No. 40.

No, I am not Karlotta, you oaf.

The point is that what you said in that post of yours was utterly wrong.
Purchasing IMG ships by IMG characters is not an RP issue at all. They must be allowed to purchase those ships and that's just that.
After they buy them, you can tell them to get out of your system any way you want.

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