Admin Note: Faction right #5

[DarthCloakedGuy]

Question still stands though, do unoffical goverment type groups have the ability to use this rule against others? Including against other offical factions and unoffical factions?

Some of these unofficial government type groups are formed of the leadership of official factions, so you'd think that they'd be treated as having official status, as their decisions have the backing of official factions.

Not all of them do though... I think. Not sure.

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[Zelot]

Why does this right exist? Because in RP most of these player factions are in charge of their respective NPC factions, and control what the NPC do to certain players/groups.

In the case of various player governments such as the Corsair Council, I believe the power lies with them, not with a self-exiled faction who decided to leave the Council because they were unable/unwilling to cooperate.

When TAZ left the Council of Zoners, did they presume to have any authority of the Zoners as a whole? No. Same applies to the Brotherhood. The Guard system belongs to TBH, so they should have authority over who gets made hostile to Corsair Guard, and the Council should have to ask TBH for permission to make anyone hostile to Corsair Guard.

Go ahead. Let's see if anyone shares your paranoid delusions.

So now because we dont want to go along with the hypocracy and backbitting that goes on in the council, we lose offical rights? I think not. This right is for all official factions, not just the ones you want to have it Mule.

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[Athenian]

Jinx I think you're forgetting that these requests have to go through the admins, who aren't (most of the time) complete idiots.

You obviously don't know them very well. You'd better do your homework if you're gonna be asking us to set TBH as hostile.

Any ridiculous cases of factions trying to set indy groups hostile for not following their every beck and call isn't going to go through.

What about reasonable cases?

There is a slight difference between what is Order RP and what is good RP.

Burn.

I think the real benefit of this will involve non-aligned ID's (mercs, smugglers, etc) rather than being used as a tool in some <strike>Orwellian</strike> Discovery nightmare.

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[Muleo]

You obviously don't know them very well. You'd better do your homework if you're gonna be asking us to set TBH as hostile.

And why would I do that?

What about reasonable cases?

In reasonable faction right 5 requests, the request.. goes through? I don't see what you're trying to get at here..

Edit: Seems Athenian has a poor sense of humour and was attempting to be funny. You suck.

[Zelot]

And why would I do that?

In reasonable faction right 5 requests, the request.. goes through? I don't see what you're trying to get at here..

So if TBH makes a reasonable fr5 request, why should it be turned down? Hmm?

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[Exsiled_one]

asno he was sarcastic damnit.
But seriously, TBH as hostile? what are we talking about?

Also, I would like to see the council as the more structured thing now, where every indy Corsair can come and report other indy corsair. with enough evidence, things can be judged. Gives council bit more work, and keeps them active. Since I never see half of em!

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[Muleo]

So if TBH makes a reasonable fr5 request, why should it be turned down? Hmm?

Maybe because there was a recent case of OPG making a deal with the Buccaneers, who were bringing food and taking Artifacts from Crete.
Maybe because there was a recent case of TBH picking a fight with these people because they didn't bend over for you.
Maybe because when I contacted you in PM to ask what happened so we could cooperate, you ignored me.
Maybe because if TBH had this faction right, they would be able to make them hostile to Corsairs, while the OPG and/or the Council wants them to be able to dock on Corsair bases.

[Athenian]

Edit: Seems Athenian has a poor sense of humour and was attempting to be funny. You suck.

Your failure to pick up on sarcasm would mean that it is you who has the poor sense of humour.

So if TBH makes a reasonable fr5 request, why should it be turned down? Hmm?

I like the direction this is going.

Who cares about the annoying power drain? Just put a faction right 5 on someone!

The future of Discovery

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[Muleo]

Your failure to pick up on sarcasm would mean that it is you who has the poor sense of humour.

No U!

[Zelot]

Maybe because there was a recent case of OPG making a deal with the Buccaneers.
Maybe because there was a recent case of TBH picking a fight with these people because they didn't bend over for you.
Maybe because if TBH had this faction right, they would be able to make them hostile to Corsairs, while the OPG and/or the Council wants them to be able to dock on Corsair bases.

How intresting, sounds exactly like the situation that drove TBH from the Council yes? TBH make a deal with someone only to have the OPG threaten to attack those ships because OPG wasnt getting it's share of the profits. You are doing the exact same thing now, but now you want to use faction rules to get advantage in an RP situation. Yet you make posts about how we cant get along with the council, we do the same thing you do and get threatened for it, and you expect us to stand by and let it happen?


Edit: And maybe if OPG hadent made a deal with the Bucs to allow them to bring OC ships to Crete, this wouldnt have happened. Also, I have not heard one word from "The Council" reguarding the Buccaners, maybe this is a deal not between the Council and Bucs, but between OPG and bucs that you are trying to powerplay using rules that have nothing to do with rp.


Look end of the story is TBH is a Corsair faction, the oldest Corsair faction on the server and one that has been around longer than the Benitez and OPG combined, yet you seem to think it's right to make us less than the other Corsair factions, which is bull. You go ahead and try, I will make sure there are severe in-rp consequences to trying to marginilize TBH. You want TBH hostile to OPG? This is the way to do it.

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