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Offline Dennis Jameson
01-25-2010, 12:23 AM,
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If there's a point in making the Sails official I must've missed it. You're pirates, pirates hardly fill a niche so important that they need to be made official.

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Offline Zig
01-25-2010, 01:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-25-2010, 01:15 AM by Zig.)
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' Wrote:If there's a point in making the Sails official I must've missed it. You're pirates, pirates hardly fill a niche so important that they need to be made official.

My two credits.

Pardon? Pirates certainly can form a powerful, organized, well-supplied and well-trained cartel in-roleplay. Whyever oughtn't a pirate organization to shoot for official status?

Luls:

' Wrote:Role-play is not the be all and end all.
 
Offline Dennis Jameson
01-25-2010, 01:25 AM,
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Because official factions should add something to the mod of a whole? Be examples on how you should and should not act? Pirating itself doesn't warrant becoming official unless it's something unique, but here we have another bunch of Corsairs doing... well, what every Joe and Jill in the universe can do.

Nope... I just don't believe that the Sails would anything to the Corsairs beyond what they already have.

(And just so we're not blaming this on me being an Outcast player: I like TBH and I like Benitez because they actually try and get roleplay going before bashing the door in and going "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA U DIE NOWZ".)

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Offline Zig
01-25-2010, 01:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-25-2010, 01:34 AM by Zig.)
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In that case, you need to rephrase your initial comment to "these pirates", not to "pirates" as a general, all-encompassing whole. Existing pirate factions, such as the LR, for instance, or the Bretonian Buccaneers, certainly do display and contribute excellent roleplay, by virtue of being such "cartels" as I remarked upon.

Be advised that I'm not commenting upon the Black Sails themselves at all here, just objecting to the idea that pirates ought never to be permitted to form official factions.

Luls:

' Wrote:Role-play is not the be all and end all.
 
Offline dr lameos
01-25-2010, 03:43 AM,
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' Wrote:Anyway I guess I'm just posting from a Cryer standpoint and would like more details re: your stance to us.
To ask this question for the third time.
Rumour has it that you're both pirating cryer ships and docking on cryer bases. That isn't going to fly, please clarify which way it's going to be.

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Offline ... kur nubėgo?
01-25-2010, 11:11 AM,
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' Wrote:To ask this question for the third time.
Rumour has it that you're both pirating cryer ships and docking on cryer bases. That isn't going to fly, please clarify which way it's going to be.

Rumour.

If you would take a look at corsair id you would see that we are not allowed to dock to atka station. Besides, having house corporations and militaries as enemies, i think cryer falls into one of these categories. Actually I don't see a reason why we should give Cryer a special treatment. So there is no correct order how our men should pirate you or let you go, this basis on individuals opinion.


Dennis. Oh but we are. Actually before fall of OPG there was trinity of the official factions. Each one filled branch of activity.

TBH: Military strategists
Benitez: Diplomats and afferists.
OPG: Highway marauders (omega 41 quite a crossroad)


Alltought each and every faction are corsair one and does all acitivities in some way or another but concentrates about one. OPG felt, the Black Sails are trying to overtake OPG place. We are not same group, i respect Gentles wishes, it was his work a long period of life, something which you can't just give up for someone else to take over, becouse it's already a part of you. Therefor we needed a reform and a slight change in rp now adapt same idea and by letting OPG disband.

We have our attitude about the game. Deeply corsairish if I can call it this way.

What we can contribute? Pretty muc same as OPG did. You rather tr to ask yourself, what we can't. And the main reason of all for me is to form group of player who would have a great time playing fl togheter. Why corsairs - its my best developed character and I have best awearness of who are corsairs comparing to my other chars.

And to search diffrence from your said other pirate groups. With that hidden bash you had there, comparing us to some lolpirates:

Quote:"HAHAHAHAHAHAHA U DIE NOWZ"

We are not. And actually roleplay in your damn alpha before pewpew's ussaly from about 15 up to 25 minutes. (you see my character really tries to convince you to buy a damn artifact from him) as well as pirating is far beyond "give or dai". After all we have newer guys who are not so well into rp as, as for example, Adam. But they are looked, sepctated. And some of the really shows improvement.


What we have now. lots of trash talking in skype channel. And as well fun time spending while playing the game. Can you imagine, waiting for a transport 30 minutes is not that boring. 3th thing no-ione gives the orders to boss anyone around here. I bet you can ask each memeber about that and he will deny that. Orders are fallowed by common sense that the order represents individuals will. Simply by building up trust with new memebers. Not only new guy must prove to be trustable, but leaders to the new guy must show themself trustable too.

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Offline dr lameos
01-25-2010, 05:37 PM,
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' Wrote:Rumour.

If you would take a look at corsair id you would see that we are not allowed to dock to atka station. Besides, having house corporations and militaries as enemies, i think cryer falls into one of these categories. Actually I don't see a reason why we should give Cryer a special treatment. So there is no correct order how our men should pirate you or let you go, this basis on individuals opinion.
If you'd take a look at the corsair id you'd see that's actually not what it says. In fact it says you can ally with cryer against outcasts, and due to a neutral reputation, there's little reason sairs couldn't dock on atka if they have good reason. To say 'all house corporations are the same' is pretty ignorant, but if you want to classify cryer as piratable that's fine, just make sure that your reputations align with that, and you don't dock on cryer bases.

If you aren't docking on atka anyway there's no problem with whatever you do, just I've heard from a few people that you have been, and obviously due to game mechanics, without screenshots, I can't know who's docked and who hasn't.

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Offline Curios
01-25-2010, 06:03 PM,
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Pirating or not pirating Cryer is based on in-game RP with the person in front of me. When he act like Cryer member who tries to develop that anti-cardi aids I'm forcing that with escorting (for little donation of couse) but if that is a lolidonnow adv.train moving a cargo of plutonium for example with unknown reason to do so as a Cryer, well, you can imaging what happens to him.

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Offline ... kur nubėgo?
01-25-2010, 09:31 PM,
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If ID states can ally with some-one agianst some-one means that you can jump in the battle and support one party with which your ID states. Not on regular basis.

While yes. IF you provoid Cryer rp, relationship might be more friendlier. If the guy uses Cryer id/iff just to avoid piracy with non-rp cargo the things can go for him even worse.

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Offline Bakamono
01-26-2010, 08:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-26-2010, 08:23 AM by Bakamono.)
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Yo, the point is your original faction post says this - it's on page one for those who forgot :
"Neutral - Ignore them until they bug you :
The Order
Zoners
Orbital Spa and Cruise
Cryer Pharmaceutical"

So - is it ignore or pirate is all - All ours that your's have pirated are Cryer| tagged - with RP cargo.
Here's a list of yours who pirated Cryer|, or destroyed them:
grimly|Sails, James.scott|Sails, Karolis|Sails, Sails.Toro-Bravo.
Cryer| represent the npc faction, sair npcs fly over atka all the time, and actually ask how atka is doing (if you listen to the comm chatter)...
And everything lameos said:)
O, I'm am not talking about indie Cryer that you might have met - I'm specifically talking about faction members with the Cryer| tag.
So far TBH are fine with us, as are a lot of indie corsairs.
anyway, I'd obviously like some kind of understanding to be reached; I hope that we find a compromise, or something.
Adios.

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