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Offline Not Espi
03-29-2010, 11:58 PM,
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what mjolnir is saying did cross my mind, but if the change is not too extreme (like 200% prices increase as suggested, wtf?) the trading will not be reduced that much.
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Offline n00bl3t
03-30-2010, 03:52 AM,
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' Wrote:By reading Xorias guideline on trading routes I can pick from a rather large number of in-rp routes for my corporation trader and they will all give me about 20 mil/hour (I believe, I don't actually count it).

I believe the most normal 4.84 routes had something like 20-50 mil per hour depending on whether the route was parked by BHG BCs or pirate swarm at the moment.

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One issue that you should keep in mind

If say everyone makes 100 million per hour then people "need" to trade/mine much less, which again gives pirates less targets to pirate and lawfulls to protect.
In the extreme example all interaction will happen only as "pre-planned" stuff.

Trading/Mining ship in space is what keeps things alive. Swarms of ships above Crete/Malta/Manhattan chatting or pvp training before they go to attack someone don't.

So while I don't see a problem with say increasing profits by 20%, you should be careful what you wish for.

I am glad you responded.

Not 100 million per hour, closer to 50 million per hour, but most likely 40 million per hour.

People will always trade. There will be new blood, new purchases, wiped accounts, trading factions and so on. It will not stop, by increasing profitability of trade routes to 40 million per hour.

Also, the below will happen.

' Wrote:Another possiblity is that people will play on the chars they want to play on rather than do something they hate doing and be hated by the comunity for it.

My Agreement level is over 9000


' Wrote:what mjolnir is saying did cross my mind, but if the change is not too extreme (like 200% prices increase as suggested, wtf?) the trading will not be reduced that much.

200% increase takes it to 40 million per hour on some routes. 200% seems large as a figure, but when it works out, no, it really is not.

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.
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Offline arvg
03-30-2010, 04:37 AM,
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please, I am fast loosing the will to trade.

I just don't have the time to spend on it like I used to, and it is now getting in the way of RP. I want to spend my time working with groups and encouraging others. BUT when I am spending hour-upon-hour a week trying to get the funds to do it, when it comes to RP time, I just don't have the energy.

I want to reduce the time spent grinding away and increase my time spent on story line.

I don't care, really, if there a hundred cap ships floating about going LOLwut all day long... they will get bored and they will go away.

Let me focus on what I need to focus on, please, to make this game fun again. I really am hitting a point where I am wondering if it is worth it.

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Offline Exsiled_one
03-30-2010, 08:39 AM,
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Keep in mind something very important. Mining prices were nerfed because of this very community's requests and whinings about constant pirates.


just keep that somewhere in back of your head. like guilt.

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Offline NonSequitor
03-30-2010, 09:11 AM,
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I'm not sure why no one has seriously considered simply lowering the prices on vessels and equipment across the board. In particular, the big-ticket items.

That way you could keep the mining and trade routes as they currently are. Credits would have more purchasing power.
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Offline Exsiled_one
03-30-2010, 09:17 AM,
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True, but I doubt you can persuade the pirates to ask less cash then.
Hm...

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Offline n00bl3t
03-30-2010, 09:48 AM,
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' Wrote:True, but I doubt you can persuade the pirates to ask less cash then.
Hm...

' Wrote:I do believe there was a rule about ridiculous demands being terrorism and therefore a violation of the piracy rules. That needs to be brought back, or I need a higher magnification on my glasses to see them in the current rules.

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.
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Offline Gaz83
03-30-2010, 11:16 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-30-2010, 11:17 AM by Gaz83.)
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' Wrote:Keep in mind something very important. Mining prices were nerfed because of this very community's requests and whinings about constant pirates.
just keep that somewhere in back of your head. like guilt.

There has always been constant pirates anyway,
well atleast aslong as I've been playing discovery there has been.

Which should really be another reason why trade routes need to be improved.
Because really, you can't move anywhere without being harrassed by pirates screaming "GIVE ME 2MILLION!".
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Offline n00bl3t
03-30-2010, 12:13 PM,
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' Wrote:There has always been constant pirates anyway,
well atleast aslong as I've been playing discovery there has been.

Which should really be another reason why trade routes need to be improved.
Because really, you can't move anywhere without being harrassed by pirates screaming "GIVE ME 10MILLION!".

Fixed that for you.

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.
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Offline Exsiled_one
03-30-2010, 12:26 PM,
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I wouldn't know. Such general statements can be harmful to our server's gameplay or to new person's roleplay.

I have convoyed many times and didn't pay as much as 10 million, but then again - i moved out of liberty.
Keep in mind that not every route is full of pirates, and keep in mind that if you pm a military or police to escort you, they usually will do so.

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