(THE MODEL DUMP)

[Doom]

The Bayonet is the very ship that the LH faction asked me to replace, they say its one of the worst ships
they use. They all love the GB and asked me to create a line of ships that all have similar build and texures

As for your gunship, i remember when you made it and submitted it. All responses were positive and there were demands for whole ship line...so why they dont like it now, its a mystery....
I also dont appreciate tone of this thread....i am not defending either side but some mutual respect should be shown.

Model itself looks nice and of decent quality. Round edges are not FL-ish and raise the question of high(er) poly count. I know how hard is to make your own textures and how much effort takes, but this time (as well as the first time - for GS) it was waste of time.

All new ships use vanilla textures and that is what makes them look FL-ish...shape is not so important...keep that in mind next time when texturing the model. I am sorry, but despite i like quality of your model i don't think it has place in the mod, especially as replacement for bayonet, which is THE BEST model of a ship that hackers have.

And to all of you who can't really comment model other then "i hate it" or "i would fly it", as well as throwing insults to each other, please try to find something constructive to say...

[Linkus]

Constructively, the entire front of the ship looks just ugly in my opinion.

If you were to scrap the ship and re-do it, something more streamlined or 'lighter' then it might look better. Right now it looks like a mini gunboat, not exactly what fighters look like in Freelancer.

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The current LH fighters look good as they are now, and to be frank the "borderworld" look fits them better than the clean-crisp gunship style.

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10/6

[Jihadjoe]

A look at the Heavy Fighter (untextured)

Hm... Honestly... The current Lane Hacker heavy fighter (Bayonet) is a far superiour model to these.

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[Durandal]

Man, am I glad the HF and Hacker lines are getting split...

The model is boring, poorly textured, and far too bulky to replace the perfectly good Bayonet.

Make it sleeker, more detailed, and use grittier textures.

[Denelo]

This...

Is by far the singularly worst model I've ever had the extreme misfortune of seeing. And that includes the horrific things I came up with last time I tried to model. More importantly, that includes the gunship model.

Seriously, people complain about Legeonation's models. You expect this to fair better? These and the gunship make the Spyglass seem original. It's certainly a million times more fitting in Freelancer than these... things.

Now, you come out and say, without consulting anyone as far as I'm aware except for the LH, that you're going to replace two of our better devs' better models? I'm sorry, but that's the most totally ridiculous thing I've ever heard, particularly considering that the LH is not the only Hackers faction.

Study Freelancer ships. Words can't even begin to describe how badly this thing shatters plausible believability in a world like this. It's so totally out of line with anything else in Discovery - even the Homeworld ships and Huntress, and even the RClaw/Shadow and Slipstream/Penumbra!

Seriously. Model and texture it so it looks remotely like it fits. Less massive blockiness, less ridiculously never-been-used clean terribly plasticy textures (seriously, that's hardly defense, and it fits with nothing in the Freelancer universe), less anime-cyberspace-type nonsense. More hard lines, "sleek" blockiness, sharp edges, Freelancer textures, etc.

Also, while I'm on the subject, what on earth possessed you to make you think you somehow had the right to come in and replace two other developers' models without even asking them permission? Your gunship is bad enough as it is - icanhaz something that's somewhat decent, please? - but other developers - ones who're actually decent - have refrained from messing with it (at least up to this point). Please, please, pay them the same courtesy at the very least.

And maybe pay me the courtesy of ripping my eyeballs out if I have to look at that thing again. Or the transport, for that matter.

I see this thing as the replacement of a perfectly good model with a useless cube.

Also, if you're going to flame me, call this a flame, etc... don't. People actually would be forced into flying this thing (instead of Turkish and Gurjiv's fighters), you know. If you can't take their comments/opinions/irritation, then, quite simply, don't make models. Seriously, if you're going to whine, complain, refuse to improve, and generally be a pest, and if you're going to do all that and replace high-quality models with low-quality ones, then... don't.

That being said, I can't at all see this being accepted. It's very simply put, a bad model.

Finally, the Bayonet, Falchion, and Broadsword...

Yeah, the LH aren't the only Hackers around. And every Hacker - faction member or otherwise - that I, for one, have talked about such things to loves the Bayo. It looks good, and its shape is superb for combat.

If any of the current Hacker models are replaced by these things, or if they get in at all, I think I might well resort exclusively to the Border Worlds line. I simply won't fly them.

Not, as Tycho pointed out, that it'll be a problem for me by the time these could get in anyways.

Edit: Huh. Didn't realize this was so long...

[Guest]

My response will be re-added when people are actually reading this thread.

[Prysin]

to add to my response:

If you want to lie, atleast make it believeable.

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[dude42]

My goodness

I am only a small bit surprised at just how delutional most of you are, but surised none the less.
There are so so many false statements and just bold faced lies in the last slew of flames that I dont
have the time or motive to set them all strait...

But No mind ;)
Later Children...


Please dont bother makeing any more replies here....
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[schlurbi]

You don't seem to understand. I have never seen such Ignorance before. I don't even see any false Statements except from you here. Nor do I see any Flames.

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