While I may follow your guide as I have no characters in Rhienland, I feel the need to remind you that you cannot tell an indie what ship they can and cannot fly.
If it is green on the tech chart, they can fly it without your permission. You only control the ships your faction members fly.
Not saying you haven't done a amazing job with Rheinland's 5o, but indies =/= faction members. You cannot control the ship they fly. That is the tech chart's job.
' Wrote:While I may follow your guide as I have no characters in Rhienland, I feel the need to remind you that you cannot tell an indie what ship they can and cannot fly.
If it is green on the tech chart, they can fly it without your permission. You only control the ships your faction members fly.
Not saying you haven't done a amazing job with Rheinland's 5o, but indies =/= faction members. You cannot control the ship they fly. That is the tech chart's job.
While this is of course very true, good sir, it is also important to think about the consequences of, for example, using an eagle for police business in rheinland. You will find that people will have a very hard time taking you serious both in and ooRP as it is not a government issued and thus not perfectly inRP fighter craft.
Said guide lines were provided in the readers interest.
' Wrote:While this is of course very true, good sir, it is also important to think about the consequences of, for example, using an eagle for police business in rheinland. You will find that people will have a very hard time taking you serious both in and ooRP as it is not a government issued and thus not perfectly inRP fighter craft.
I was speaking more of him saying they couldn't use Rheinland craft. RM and RP are green to each other. So an indie RFP can use RM tech, regardless of what either faction says. That includes both fighters, both bombers and the gunboat he is saying they either can't use or must ask permission from him to use.
His post comes off as he is the final say in indie RFP can and cannot do and can and cannot use. This isn't true.
' Wrote:I was speaking more of him saying they couldn't use Rheinland craft. RM and RP are green to each other. So an indie RFP can use RM tech, regardless of what either faction says. That includes both fighters, both bombers and the gunboat he is saying they either can't use or must ask permission from him to use.
His post comes off as he is the final say in indie RFP can and cannot do and can and cannot use. This isn't true.
I am not making the decision with reference to the tech chart. I'm making it on on practicality.
If you want the Polizei to just be a smaller Rheinwehr with everybody flying Wraiths (which is what happen if I do not attempt to restrict it) then fine. But I do not want that.
It's the same with the Bergelmirs and Fafnirs, except that those two ships are more seen as Rheinwehr ships. Considering the fact that they are only sold in Braunschweig (the Bergelmir is also sold in O-58, but, just no), you really need to be Rheinwehr to get access to them. The RFP Player Faction only has two because of special permission from Fleet Admiral Malte.
And gunboats are as valuable as cruisers to us. So of course keeping those who we allow gunboats in-line would be the best thing to do InRP.
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While it's true you can't restrict indies, i have a hard time taking indie polizei patrolling around in Rheinland Gunboats seriously. I tell them to switch to a Mjolnir instead.
If i see a Police repped indie flying a Wraith i tell him to switch to a mjolnir, if i see a military repped indie flying a mjolnir i tell him to switch to a wraith. And people actually listen. So OP has all rights to mention a restriction of the use of ships as an encouragement to future indies.
Sure, not everyone reads the forums, but pm'ing them ingame about it also works. So if you have learned the acceptable polizei ships, please remind the other indies that don't know ingame:)
Don't think everyone will take you seriously if you patroll around in gunboats and bergelmirs as a polizei. Make a military indie for that.
' Wrote:I am not making the decision with reference to the tech chart. I'm making it on on practicality.
That is the problem, it isn't your decision to make. Indies are free to use green cell tech. You cannot stop them. Your first post reads as if you are the person who can say what they can and cannot fly; when in fact you are not. That is unless they are in your faction, which wouldn't make then indies.
Do I understand why you want it this way? Yes, doesn't mean we have the right to make it so.
' Wrote:If i see a Police repped indie flying a Wraith i tell him to switch to a mjolnir, if i see a military repped indie flying a mjolnir i tell him to switch to a wraith. And people actually listen. So OP has all rights to mention a restriction of the use of ships as an encouragement to future indies.
That is my point. There are no restrictions. You place the restrictions on your own faction, you do not have the right to place those restrictions on indies. So no, he doesn't have the right to mention the restrictions because they don't exist. They aren't restrictions indies have to follow, only RFP| members have to follow them. He does have the right to ask that they follow them however, which isn't what the first post reads of. It reads that he is telling them.
All he's trying to do is make a clear difference between the Police and Military. Go look at Liberty, you don't even see and LPI there except for the official faction. Ever since they started using Eagles and Guardians and Cupholders, there has been no real difference. Personally I blame all the Navy acting like they are police, martial law, much?
The RFP at least have a little incentive to fly as with the Mjolnir.
Now I dunno about you, but I don't remember the last time I saw a policeman driving a humvee or an armoured tank.
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