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Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Tau Conquest
Offline sovereign
05-11-2010, 10:08 PM,
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' Wrote:I understand that Gallia forces are more powerful than the other four houses but they aren't 'OMGZ R SUPER HUMANZ' they can be defeated and IF Kusari/Bretonia fight together I can see Gallia being quite easily being pushed back, and also Liberty/Rhienland way also see this and assist Kusari/Bretonia. Gallia is the same size house as the other four and they have a larger pirate situation. I don't see how they could pull this off for long.

Just me.

Gallia has four hundred battleships. Bretonia has a dozen or two. Gallia outnumbers any other house by a considerable margin, though they can't fight all of Sirius at the same time and win. United, Sirius can win, but divided they're pretty much doomed.

As for the tech concerns, Council tech is far superior to GRN tech in my opinion (as someone who uses both). GRN ships and weapons have a nice learning curve (unlike the Agama, which does not tolerate mistakes). Have no fear, Gallic tech will not be "balanced" to roflpwn everyone. The Valor may be strong against other battleships, but it isn't invincible (as shown by Cawdor's cap tourney) and it's actually quite vulnerable to snubcraft. You may spend quite some time fighting it, though, as it has more armor than everything smaller than a Rheinland Battlebrick or Juggernaut... and I can't think of one that doesn't mount at least a Cap VII.

You -can- win. You just have to not fly right next to Glaive hardpoints, or try to overpower the Lynx (especially with HFs, the hardest thing to teach Agama pilots).

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Offline mjolnir
05-11-2010, 10:12 PM,
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' Wrote:All sarcasm aside, I don't understand why everyone is complaining about Bretonia. The Kusari-based players should be the ones with the most complaining to do, as their activity will likely plummet with the war finished.

Just like Sina I as Kusari player actually prefer this. Cause now I spend 90% of my time flying between Leeds/Tau 31 and New Tokyo or the other way as pirates/BAF etc log and re-log. No matter where I was I always got some PMs from the other area that I should be there.


' Wrote:Finally, there's the issue of balance. Are weapons going to be rebalanced so that Gallics and non-Gallics have an equal footing? And more importantly, how long does it take to kill a Gallic battleship with three Challengers?

Which weapons/ships are not equal? I kind of fail to see the big issues.

Gallic BS can kill Bret BS 1vs1 head on yes, that's kind of the only "inbalance", but actually it's same situation like Kusari BS vs Bret BS head on.

Gallic Cruiser is huge and not so fast, specially compared with Bret Dessie.
Gallic GB is 99% same as LIberty GB in all stats and size.
Gallic Bomber is very similar to GMG bomber
Gallic VHF is a bit slower than Chimaera and a noticeably bigger, though with slightly better dodging and harder to hit shape.

GRN 5.88 guns do ok damage, but use a lot of energy and are not very fast (650 m/s).
GRN 2.00 guns have good speed, but damage is not that big

GRN has to use 8.33 shieldbusters, which have certain disadvantages compared with 4.00 debs (less dps, need more shots to hit, less speed).


Killing Gallic battleship with 3 Challengers will take about same time as it takes to kill Liberty Carrier with 3 Barghests... which is... not very long.

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Offline Sprolf
05-11-2010, 10:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-11-2010, 10:16 PM by Sprolf.)
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With Bretonia used to fighting Kusari, Gallia should be a breeze, really.


I don't see what anyone's complaining about.

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Offline Zelot
05-11-2010, 10:31 PM,
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' Wrote:With Bretonia used to fighting Kusari, Gallia should be a breeze, really.


I don't see what anyone's complaining about.



Seems to me that no matter who Bretonia is facing, some Bretonian players will complain about "balance" as a way to try and support other complaints they have.


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Offline beunt
05-11-2010, 10:34 PM,
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I'm rather worried for the GRNs, from what I've read far more people are eager to gang against them than with them.


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Offline Panzer
05-11-2010, 10:35 PM,
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The greatest joy is to observe his pseudo-historical process from a detached perspective. You all would be surprised how close you are to real world politics!

Either way, this is gonna be so fun!

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Offline Aoyagi
05-11-2010, 10:38 PM,
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' Wrote:The greatest joy is to observe his pseudo-historical process from a detached perspective. You all would be surprised how close you are to real world politics!

Either way, this is gonna be so fun!
Nice to see you around.

Yes, it's quite close. A single person can do basically nothing. I demand a very angry mob!
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Offline Govedo13
05-11-2010, 10:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-11-2010, 10:43 PM by Govedo13.)
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The whole changes are for good ,the only screwed are Kusari( as always), anyway gallia was dead place , kusari was half dead exept Leeds battles,now gallia will be full with raging lolwuts that thinks they will have "the best ships" and kusari will be dead place, If someone wants to buy Kusari BS PM me..:mellow:

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(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

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Offline Donutman
05-11-2010, 11:34 PM,
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People,
CALM DOWN!

Bretonia is losing EDINBURG(spelling fail), which is probably the LEAST valuable system in Bretonia. That is all. They are not on New Londons doorstep. They have lost ONE system. In all, the Gauls are going to conquer TWO AND A HALF systems in the new mod version. Bretonia is not going to be steamrolled and carved up. No factions are being destroyed. The Outcasts have, so far, lost NO BASES. This is not the whole storyline!

Do the devs have to yell and scream these facts at you to get you to stop ranting about "ZOMG THEY ARE DESTROYING BRETONIA RAGE HATE FLAME!" or "OMG THE OUTCASTS ARE GOING TO LOOSE THREE OF THEIR BASES RAGE HATE FLAME!"

CALM THE FRAK DOWN GUYS!

And yes, before anyone brings it up, I DO understand how ironic this post is.

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Rapur
05-11-2010, 11:44 PM,
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Oh yeah ! the Croissant people are coming with overpowered stuff. Need to prepare my merc
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