Proposing a New Bounty Rule.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Blanket Bounties by official factions only.

Individual "revenge" bounties posted by anyone. (Me, Milton the Miner is angry at Pete the Pirate, here's 2 million credits and avenge my lost ore! Roar!)

I'd support this.

That's pretty close to what I think is supposed to be out there now.

The problem is the individual bounties on pirates by themselves don't work. This was proven more than two years ago, and that's WHY blanket bounties came out in the first place. (Also, that was to put a restriction on bounty hunters, so they weren't auxiliary Sirius Police, which is how vanilla actually has them operating.)

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Hone]

I Strongly dis-agree with this proposal, If someone blanket bounties an entire faction, and the faction gets angry, that is what FR5 is for.

If someone bounties an individual, and they get angry, bounty them back, besides which, individual bounties are hardly ever collected on, iv'e had one on me for half a year, no-one has collected.

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[Sigfreid.Kreutz]

I was about to ask a question regarding bounties, so rather than a new thread, I might put it here ... I have been considering opening up for business as a freelance pirate hunter on a speific contract basis ... the client gives me the name of the pirate and 2 million credits and I hunt that vessel ... whilst I am quite prepared to publish an updated list of current targets, all contracts would be by private message to ensure absolute anonimity of the client ... I would only be hunting bona-fide targets, and to prove this, these private messages would be available for administrative audit for a fixed period after contract fulfilment ... I guess my question is: Is it necessary for bounties to be requested on the open bounty board, or would my "Kreutz List" fulfill the requirements? ... With reference to the original post, I will not be accepting contracts for blanket bounties. I remember the first time my junker transport was shot down by bounty hunters in Kusari (about day 2 on the server) ... it's not fun to join a neutral faction, have offended noone, and end up floating in an escape pod.

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[Shikyo]

Trouble is that some bounty hunters use the Blanket Bounty as an excuse to simple announce a Bounty being collected on any pirate or smuggler and and outright attack without giving that pirate or smuggle half a chance to rp back.

I've had that happen to me on three different occasions now on both by pirates where the Bounty Hunter simply told me he's collecting the price on my head and starts attacking. I'm not even given the time or chance to verify myself if there is a bounty with my name attached and have to flee right away. Not really my idea of fun when they just do that.

I do not like or agree with the Blanket Bounty system at all, to me its more of an excuse for a BH to go find any pirate anywhere and just start attacking them without putting the time, effort, or even resources to rp with that pirate or smuggler. There needs to be a serious change in the Bounty system in my personal opinion.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

I do not like or agree with the Blanket Bounty system at all, to me its more of an excuse for a BH to go find any pirate anywhere and just start attacking them without putting the time, effort, or even resources to rp with that pirate or smuggler. There needs to be a serious change in the Bounty system in my personal opinion.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75127

July 18th - this IS the new and improved bounty system, that came out after several months of discussion and work. If you come up with something new or different, then please make a recommendation.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[notequinoxe]

Trouble is that some bounty hunters use the Blanket Bounty as an excuse to simple announce a Bounty being collected on any pirate or smuggler and and outright attack without giving that pirate or smuggle half a chance to rp back.

I've had that happen to me on three different occasions now on both by pirates where the Bounty Hunter simply told me he's collecting the price on my head and starts attacking. I'm not even given the time or chance to verify myself if there is a bounty with my name attached and have to flee right away. Not really my idea of fun when they just do that.

I do not like or agree with the Blanket Bounty system at all, to me its more of an excuse for a BH to go find any pirate anywhere and just start attacking them without putting the time, effort, or even resources to rp with that pirate or smuggler. There needs to be a serious change in the Bounty system in my personal opinion.

Try to look at this from the other perspective too. Almost everytime when I attempted some RP while trying to collect these things happened.

A. my target hit cruise while I was typing
B. tried to suckerpunch me.

Now, if you're a wanted criminal and you've got a price on your head, if someone comes after you you either run like no tommorrow or blast him to pieces. For the sake of realism, I don't think a bounty hunter and the criminal will have a cup of tea discussing gastronomy, politics, or women while each is sitting in his ship, armed to the teeth. And inRP, the Bounty Hunter is supposed to make a living out of that, so for him it's kinda shoot first, ask questions later.

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You know that **** has hit the fan when notequinoxe makes a post in an oorp discussion forum.

[blubba]

Some BH are great RP'ers. Sadly, there are quite a few of them...

If factions could only place bounties, the Zoner situation may not have happened.
Infact, are there any official faction bounties against Zoners?
There is one from the [A] and one from an individual.
The Corsairs have not placed any such bounty. If only official factions could place bounties, then most of the action on this server would not have happened.

I quite like bounties of this nature. Of indy pilots.
It gives all the pilots something to do from either side of the fence.
I just wish pilots (and quite a few do) would reflect there actions in game with regard to their reputations.

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[Domjan]

Well Chico what about sails?:)

[Exile]

No. No more rules. We've gotten way too many already. If I don't like some one for whatever reason I should be able to pay others to slap him around a bit IRP. Unless there's all of the sudden some intergalactic supreme council that makes the laws of sirius that decides whether people may post bounties on others they don't like or not, which won't happen if you have a shred of common sense, it won't make any.. Sense.

People shouldn't be able to just shoot who ever they want, aye. But if you want somebody gone and can't do it yourself? Make some one else do it. Let RP be a bit creative.

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[Shikyo]

Seems to me I am being forced to revisit this same problem yet again. I took a good long hard look at the *new* rules to the Bounty System and for the most part do not mind, however...

It seems those Mercs/Freelancers out there do not get the hint nor the idea to read and understand the limitations and requirments of such a system. Prime example being an incident I had recently in New York. Even despite RP going on, a merc simply said he was collecting a bounty on my pirate and began to attack me in front of a Liberty Navy Pilot and several others who suddenly decided they too were going to open fire.

If it were not for the fact that I was able to dive into Conneticut, they would likely have chased me all the way to Rochester or blown me up at some point since a couple of them were using cruise drives to keep up. And those who were there know who you are. You disrupted on going RP in favor of your damn pew pew. Hell, even then I was persued AND attacked in that system, where as far as I *know* RP is not part of before I was able to dock and logged off.

These Blanket Bounties, depsite that only Official Factions can post them, are still disruptive to good rp and still give mercs and freeelancers too much leeway to simply state they are collecting a bounty and then attacking with the absolute minimum RP involved.

I want to pont out the following section of the *new* Bounty rules:

8. Rule 6.10 states that player reputation and conduct must match player actions.
Players are responsible for their own reputation status.
Players must be at least neutral to their employer.
Players must be hostile to the faction they are targetting in a bounty. This does not apply to assassination missions where the target is a single character.
People posting bounties are obliged to ensure that the persons they are hiring have a suitable reputation.
This means no hiring or paying people who would be hostile to you based on previous actions.

While open and meaningful, perhapes it should be something thats writen differently or at least in part and Added to the Freelancer/Merc ID so they *should* know that they *should* have limitations imposed on them before they go bounty hunting for any reason at all.

I would like to also suggest an addmendment or revision of the following section:

10. Any player abusing the bounty system to drive players off the server or to further out-of-roleplay conflicts will face consequences for disrupting play.

It perhapes should include that disrupting RP in progress should also not be allowed or that a minimum set time for the Merc/Freelancer/Bounty Hunter be required for RP before they can disrupt RP in progress. It is extreamly dissapointing and rude when RP that your fully involved in and enjoying is ruined when some merc just comes along and says because your with this faction or another that they are going to collect the bounty on you now.

I've seen a few snippets and references to this MercNet thing and the last one I noticed mentions that it was locked and no longer in opperation. Being that it is one of Two main Bounty Boards mention in the Rules for Bounty hunting, that kinda hurts the system it was ment to help fix or correct. I am not sure if it is seperate or part of the Bounty Board section.

I guess thats all I have for my 2 pennies for now.