[Proposal] A Fix For Bretonia

[Hidamari]

the mag and dub holes in leeds are hangovers from vanilla... they should be nerfed like the sig 13/berlin hole.
however, i think that they should remain in the system, just not where they are.

the Magellan JH destroys bretonia by allowing everyone to skip 50% of the house space in 1 jump, it needs to be deleted. you can get to Edinbrugh from dublin, you dont need to go to leeds, and if you do, use the new london JH and then the Leeds JH in NL.

I have a corsair id'ed and tagged legionnaire, which i keep to assist peeps making new benitez characters. moving these ships through jumpgates is oorp and just asking for a npc-cap spawn.

do this in the sigmas where you wont be disturbed. not havinga civilian ID means anyone can come and kill you anyway, being able to do this in core bretonian space is exactly my point, you shouldnt be able to because it should be busy.

us pierats need the jumpholes to move around,

being unlawful should not mean its easier for you to get around

Actually the whole crippling of Bretonia's mega jumphole highways will encourage more gold hauling to Rheinland.

also if the price of ore was the same in rhienland than in Liberty, it would mean that there is actually a reason to make a change sometimes and go to rhienland for once, meaning they get more activity also as a side effect.

Also there should be a tea and crumpets trade route for some nice profit aswell! xD

Commodity: Confectionarys, sell at planet NL for 3000 each, xD

Cutting the gold route at the Dublin or Manchester hole will make Leeds more or less a dead system,

not true, Orbital Spa come through on a regular basis from planet Curacao with VIP's on the way for a holiday on Luxury Liner Shetland in Edinbrugh. Also Liberty Traders carrying Boron from Pitsburgh to LD-14 are frequent also, not to mention Military Vehicles from Rhienland and Refugees from the Taus.

Will just cause traffic to be rerouted, mostly though the gate,

which is exactly the point, predictable trade routes is how pirates make money, its also how the police act fast to distress calls, since your not in the middle of nowhere between 2 jump holes like it is currently

most the gold pirates are in California, on that last lane,

I rest my case about predictability, on that LANE, you KNOW that it only takes a few minutes to run into a trader on the LANE, there is also no Jumphole to New York which is their destination so they -have- to take the lane unless they want to take a massive detour.

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[Fletcher]

I agree with the OP, the Magellen to Leeds jumphole is incredibly convenient, almost too convenient. Yes, it was there for the story, but so was the New York Magellan route, now its not there. This hole needs to go.

Also, the Dublin hole is WAY too close to the Leeds tradelanes, at least slot it near the center south of the smog cloud.

I really like this idea. Nice thinking.

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Fiddle with my jumpholes and i'll remove your fiddly bits.

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Fiddle with my jumpholes and i'll remove your fiddly bits.

No y- Maybe not..

But yeah, implement it please.

[BaconSoda]

I like your ideas about Leeds. The Dublin, Magellen, and Cambridge Jump Holes were all vanilla things, and now we've done away with that whole storyline thing, so we can remove them. However, I disagree with the sentiment about the Leeds-Manchester Jump Hole. That is the original Jump Hole network put into place by Digital Anvil and I think it's rather important.

But, the thing which really keeps Bretonia from shining on the most is the Magellen - Leeds Jump Hole. Why in Sirius that has not been looked at while the Sigma-13 - New Berlin Jump Hole has been moved to the middle of nowhere is beyond me. If anything, that really should get looked at.

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[Hidamari]

well, if the Dublin, Magellan and Cambridge Jumpholes were removed, the Manchester Jumphole could stay, but it would need better placement in both the Leeds and Manchester systems, its still too conveniant for traders at present.

As Blubba said though, if a Buc| base was placed in that cloud near the Jumphole it would encourage not only the Buccaneer players to play again, but also encourage the use of lanes, which benefits everyone in the end.

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[BaconSoda]

I fail to see how it's entirely convenient. It's deep enough in the cloud to dissuade people from using it, and the traffic from Cambridge still comes up through the lane anyway.

And why not put a base there for a faction which, I don't know, actually exists, like moving the Molly Destroyer there or something? The Bucaneers are a player faction which has fizzled out. There are two NPC factions in Bretonia which pirate (in Leeds) and I think both of them would love to take up shop in that smog cloud.

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[Coin]

do this in the sigmas where you wont be disturbed. not havinga civilian ID means anyone can come and kill you anyway, being able to do this in core bretonian space is exactly my point, you shouldnt be able to because it should be busy.
being unlawful should not mean its easier for you to get around

art thou shmokin' summat interestin'?

how can we get angry with the BRETONIAN lawful factions by taking missions in the sigmas?

im not asking for it to be easier for me to move around, im asking for my movements to be within RP. easy movement would be using jumpgates and being neutral to to lawfuls. we're talking about setting up new players with a proper rep, and to do that, we travel from crete to bretonia, and take corsair missions from trafalgar. these low level missions are perfect to separate the men from the boys, if you know what i mean, and the benitez elders are insistent on not using jumpgates. removing these jumpgates is not thought out well.

magellan to leeds, remove, as i said.

leeds> dublin, move to a billion km from the sun for all i care, just dont delete it, or a whole player group is stuffed, and we'll start seeing unlawfuls using jumpgates... not cool

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[BaconSoda]

art thou shmokin' summat interestin'?

how can we get angry with the BRETONIAN lawful factions by taking missions in the sigmas?

im not asking for it to be easier for me to move around, im asking for my movements to be within RP. easy movement would be using jumpgates and being neutral to to lawfuls. we're talking about setting up new players with a proper rep, and to do that, we travel from crete to bretonia, and take corsair missions from trafalgar. these low level missions are perfect to separate the men from the boys, if you know what i mean, and the benitez elders are insistent on not using jumpgates. removing these jumpgates is not thought out well.

magellan to leeds, remove, as i said.

leeds> dublin, move to a billion km from the sun for all i care, just dont delete it, or a whole player group is stuffed, and we'll start seeing unlawfuls using jumpgates... not cool

*Cough* Dublin --> New London --> Leeds *Cough*
*Cough* Omega-5 --> Cambridge --> New London --> Leeds --> Manchester

Wow, that was exactly the same path as a Jump Gate, only there are Jump Holes that do that. I don't understand your prophecy, here.

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[Hone]

I have a cool Idea regarding the Leeds-Magellen hole, basing of the "destabalized due to high traffic" idea,

(the only explanation offered so far, and a good one. I'd hope these holes wouldn't just change with no reason, and we'd be expected to RP it)

That hole is constantly getting BMM hege's barroling through it, I say it collapsed during (and due to) a particularly heavy BMM convoy passing through, so in the next version, where the holes used to be, we get half a hege wreck on each side, with lootable gold ore!

Or if you don't like the hege, how about a mastadon, USI loves to use massive convoys for that route.

As for the rest I say definitely keep the leeds-dublin hole, but move it further from the lane in leeds, and seperate it from the new london hole in dub (move whicher one is best, how about one down the bootm?)

Apart from that, agree.

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