Though it may be a bit late, I would like to put my thumbs up on this. We need our agents back, and from what I have seen you folks RP and play the part quite well. If it keeps up, I may ask to join sooner or later.
Why have the BIA (or whatever) tag when you have two distinct sections; MI5 and MI6?
If you keep the MI5 and MI6 tags the other law enforcing Bretonian players can tell more easily what's going on. And it would mean clearer cut RP boundaries for your members, some would stay in Bretonia and be an intelligence gathering force come specialist enforcing group whilst the MI6 ships operate outside Bretonia.
My two cents. I think that MI5 and MI6 already have recognition to any server member because of movies such as James Bond, the other division would be a purely forum based thing as thats where complaints are lodged etc.
' Wrote:Why have the BIA (or whatever) tag when you have two distinct sections; MI5 and MI6?
If you keep the MI5 and MI6 tags the other law enforcing Bretonian players can tell more easily what's going on. And it would mean clearer cut RP boundaries for your members, some would stay in Bretonia and be an intelligence gathering force come specialist enforcing group whilst the MI6 ships operate outside Bretonia.
My two cents. I think that MI5 and MI6 already have recognition to any server member because of movies such as James Bond, the other division would be a purely forum based thing as thats where complaints are lodged etc.
The IAB tag is generally used like the BPA and BAF tags. It's to denote that "These pilots" are Agents of the Intelligence Service. While the MI6 they'd be using Firstname.Lastname to blend in with the rest of society and act as if they're normal every day people. Any person you run into could be a MI6 agent without you knowing, that's the purpose of not having them tagged. As far as the IAIU goes in this sense, I tend to like chatting ingame about things that have happened rather than offline on the forums. It just makes things simpler.
Now, to explain the sub-groups inside the IAB a little bit more,
The MI5 group (tagged: IAB)Codename), are suppose to be the combat operation, counter espionage, and assisting BAF/BPA ships when needed. They're main attitude is generally shoot first ask questions later, such, they're pretty much the badasses of the IAB, so to speak.
While on the other hand you have the IAIU, which are the IAB)Agent.Lastname characters. These characters are generally the more laid back, not serious, creepy stalker type. Their role is to simply be there to investigate into any mishaps that might have happened, and find out information inside Bretonia, and between the factions if something -is- going down. Their attitude is suppose to be what I described above to calm people down, as I doubt anyone in a situation would talk to a gun-totting shoot first ask questions later style character.
Today some of our units (The KPT) ran in to a group of BAF and two IAB's in New London. The chase carried over to Leeds and near the middle of sector 5-E a battle started. Allocating your units, you were in total 7, we were 3 (3 KPT units). I don't care about the numbers, this part of the fight I'm fine with.
The fight progresses, and eventually a Battleship named BAF Sovereign enters. He however, does not engage. He only engaged when two KNF Gunboats arrived to mortar him from distance. At this point we also started seeing battleship missiles coming in so we assumed he was trying to kill our fighters. I must also mention that we received backup to about 4-6 more Fighters. Making us the ones outnumbering the enemy. Although I'm not sure who the BAF Battleship targeted we had to assume he was allowed to be targeted at this point. So we fought him and he dies after trying to escape and so forth.
Now, at this point of the battle where both sides had lost a few fighters we reach the point why I'm here. The remaining IAB, I can give you the name via PM if you want, kept running back to the stationary battleship once his shields dropped. Given what he kept saying on local chat, the justification was that we apparently send too many numbers at them. It seems he forgot that it was okay when their side attacked us with 7on3, where I didn't say a word. But now it suddenly was a problem when the tables had turned.
Numbers don't matter to me. But dodging behind stationary battleships, which we all know are immortal, so we can't cause damage to them - is in my opinion a very low tactic and frankly a game-mechanics abuse (given that stationary battleships cant be removed during battles). If you state to me, with your response, that this type of tactics are considered ok in your book. Then I will make sure to prepare myself accordingly for the next battle. The BAF have been known for doing this in the past as well. But you are a new group, and are in construction. So I bring this matter to you, specifically about one of your members. I will deal with the BAF via their leader. I would also like to mention that they put a repair ship, with 4000 bots ready standing right on top of the stationary battleship. Giving out bots as people were low on it.
If we tried to thrust away from the scene, trying to move the fight away, they (as in both the BAF and the IAB unit) would run towards the Stationary Battleship regardless, and doing so repeatedly.
So in essence, I'm just asking if these types of tactics are ok with you, just so I know how to behave in the future. Thank you for your time.
For any BAF reading this as well. The choice is yours, you want to have fun fights, then let's try to be reasonable towards each other. Set up some collective guidelines if you want and we will do our best to follow them. But if you continue down this road, to win at every cost, then I assure you no side will have any fun in a space-game.
No 3. The fourth one (Bloodthirst) left to swap to a fighter before he even engaged, he was in a bomber previously. It took him time to move that ship from Kusari space. But I can understand your confusion in the heat of the battle. No worries.
The actions in Leeds were disturbing for both sides. At one point, our four was out numbered by your twelve. What are you going to do about it? Come onto the forums and bicker because what? You lost? Or because you feel something was wrong?
Ganking is a legit tactic, albeit hated. It's everyones responsibility to be aware of the combat operational zone at the time. I remember one after another after another of Kusari allied ships entering the combat zone the moment we were engaged, no one on the Kusarian side stopped and said anything, now did they?
The Battleship was there to prevent other capital ships from entering the battlefield. Which you failed to tell to hold off, and since your Capital ships were engaging a support ship, they were effectively in the battle as was the battleship. You can't honestly expect two separate fights happening between two different class vessels to just not meld together. In a battlefield like what we just had, everyone and everything is together in one fight, no matter how hard the sides try to play the field.
Now, I remember the [KPT] all of them, including yourself engaging the seven of us first. You can't honestly expect trained pilots to sit by and be an easy target? Oh wait thats the only way you can get kills, isn't it. I figured as much. When you come into Bretonia and slaughter about seven civilians for various reasons, don't expect us to be kind and have five ships sit out just so you can pick them off. Also, at what point in time did any Kusari player inform one of us that there was to many ships on the field from our side? None. So again, your point is invalid.
I don't consider running to stationary defenses legit. But everyone does it. The KNF do it, we do it, tough luck eh? War is war. Frankly, if you don't want that to happen, then why bother fighting us in Leeds anyways? Why not just go back to Kusari and fight there.
A repair ship is a useless ship on it's own, is it not? We have them for a purpose, that purpose is being out numbered 12 to 5. Everyone was told to refill once.
As for everything else. I'm still saying that how the IAB, BAF, RFA, BPA, and allied ships acted in according to being highly out numbered, is perfectly legit. As I said earlier war is war, why complain on the forums when you can have fun. No one on our side was pissed off. All of us were enjoying our time.
But thank you for your concerns. I won't be addressing them with any of my men as none of them are at the point of caring anymore. This is a game. People do things other people don't like. We learn to live with the situation and evolve. If you can't do that, then I doubt you have any place here.
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