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Offline NonSequitor
02-15-2011, 02:53 PM,
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As I was trading last night, I thought to myself: "What if every vessel classified as a freighter or transport had their cargo hold capacities doubled?"

The Barge would be the exception. You can have too much of a good thing.

a.) What would be the advantages of such a change?

b.) The disadvantages?

c.) Would the advantages outweigh the disadvantages or vice versa?



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Offline Dave Synk
02-15-2011, 02:57 PM,
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One thing. You wouldn't get "more" credits as you probably think. Because the economy would've suffered radical changes also.

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Offline Enojado
02-15-2011, 03:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 03:01 PM by Enojado.)
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' Wrote:One thing. You wouldn't get "more" credits as you probably think. Because the economy would've suffered radical changes also.

Eeehm the freelancer economy is fairly static...

I have another idea!

Lets

- Halve the yields from every form of income
- Halve the prices for snub class ships and equipment
- Double the prices for capital class ships and equipment.

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Offline Dave Synk
02-15-2011, 03:03 PM,
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' Wrote:Eeehm the freelancer economy is fairly static...

I was referring to the prices. The prices were changed so you couldn't get any advantages.

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Offline jxie93
02-15-2011, 03:11 PM,
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' Wrote:- Halve the yields from every form of income
- Halve the prices for snub class ships and equipment
- Double the prices for capital class ships and equipment.

Why?

I dunno, wasn't this done before and it didn't work?

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Offline AeternusDoleo
02-15-2011, 03:13 PM,
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' Wrote:a.) What would be the advantages of such a change?
Traders make more money in one go. Could lead to them hiring more escorts to keep that higher value secure. Probably not though. Also, with 4 traders draining a single barge, the point of storage is lost and the Barge becomes more or less pointless (or more pointless then it is now).
Mining would be affected too - at double the cargo hold, Hegemons would be mining twice as long to fill up. Four times as long to fully fill a transport.

Quote:b.) The disadvantages?
Pirates would become more numerous, and charge more most likely. Cargo piracy becomes less attractive, because any ship going boom will -never- drop more then 3K of a given cargo. Probably more hurt feelings as more value is lost in a single go.
Traders would make more money quicker, so people trading just to get to a capital ship, would get there a lot faster. Will lead to more people in combat ships, less people in traders/mining ships.
The value of the credit as a whole becomes lower - prices of things like codename weaponry, or bounties, would go up.

Quote:c.) Would the advantages outweigh the disadvantages or vice versa?
The economy is balanced towards a maximum of 5K for a cargo ship. No, the advantages would not outweigh the disadvantages. This is, in my opinion, a bad idea.

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Offline Coin
02-15-2011, 03:47 PM,
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what if all cargo values were halved, and the mining drop rates doubled?

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Offline Zeb Harley
02-15-2011, 04:08 PM,
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Doubling the holds would lead to some kind of inflation.

Additionally it would increase the strange inRP-feeling you get when you look into your Camara's hold and find 600 scientists in there. After the change you could find 1200 scientists in that shoe-box-sized ship.

Of course we always can play out something like a multidimensional cargo-hold on a freighter with swimmingpool, large sun-decks and a cocktail-bar.

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Offline Jinx
02-15-2011, 04:29 PM,
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doubling the rewards / risk for traders would have the following effect:

- a certain inflation, cause there d be more money in circulation
- a greater problem of the hardcoded cash / worth limit of ~2.000.000.000 credits

there are no real benefits other than getting desired equipment might be a little bit easier. - a danger is that the demand from traders does not go up proportionally - but it might become a habit to ask a lot more than the actual gain was ( like pirates asking for 2.5 times as much as we currently consider to be "reasonable" - instead of 2.0 times as much [ which is the net gain ] )



all in all - cutting everything down to 50% - but keeping the prices of everything the way they are might be more beneficial

- it takes longer to trade for something ( thats nither good nor bad, its just a fact )
- its harder to reach the cash limit - which is a good thing

all in all - it hasn t got a great effect on the overall gameplay. gaining money is just either shortened or stretched - but thats it.

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Offline Boss
02-15-2011, 04:34 PM,
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' Wrote:all in all - it hasn t got a great effect on the overall gameplay. gaining money is just either shortened or stretched - but thats it.

And earning the undying hatred of everyone who can't stand trading already.

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