Okay, this does it. I will close this topic now, and re open it maybe tomorrow. Because I see that nobody is READING others posts, but flaming out of wrath.
@All: Go now, take a shower. Sleep. Tomorrow read the ENTIRE thing, reason, and then you can post.
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(Really, I speak terrible English, so please, tell me if I make mistakes. I'd like to improve it a bit )
Ok, I have been doing my research and I believe it is time to bring this up again. Now, before anyone posts, as Korrd said
Read the Whole Flippin Thread!
Ok, then Now to buisness. The AW has changed their backstory. They are no longer the "Unlawful Mercenaries" they used to be, but are still "Protectors of Theta". However, they now claim "Strong ties with the Zoners and the Outcasts", Something that seems to have been pulled out of thin air. This would be fine if they got their story straight. I still see them flying around with corsair weapons and IMG ships. Whenever addressed with the question, they pull the "We aren't hostile against normal corsairs or IMG" excuse. Bah, the so called "Raid on Rheinland" that gave them access to Rheinland ships was bad enough, but this?
Dab and korrd are actually keeping to the set restrictions. They use Adv Debilitators on their Rheinland bombers and zoner weapons on their civilian ships. That I can apreciate.
also, the need to participate in every single attack on the SA and LSF is getting out of hand. Sure, there is an Alliance with HF, but to take part in an already one sided conflict tends to rub me the wrong way.
And about these "Strong Ties" with the Zoners. In an RP sense, the zoners would sever such ties because the AWs are a liability. Who want's to have any ties, strong or otherwise, with a faction that has clearly taken sides in the corsair/outcast conflict and is hostile or unfriendly to almost every house faction.
Politics, my friends, dictates that such an association with the AWs would be very bad for any long term neutrality. If anything, Zoners would want to expell this liability from theta to ensure the long term neutrality they have worked towards for so long.
Now, instead of blabbing on and on, I have thought up a way for the AW to be nice zoner wannabes again. End the war with the TBH/SCRA/BSG. As I see it, the only thing that is feuling this war is hubris on the AWs part. I am sure negatiations could get favorable results. Also, End the war with SA/LSF. This war was started by an aliance with HF. You can help HF against attacks in Vespucci, but do not send 6 ships to stomp on an already outnumbered liberty force.
If you do not want to play nice with the zoners and all their friends, I would suggest making the AW an outcast faction. It fits their RP better. But, oh, wait! That cant possibly work. The Phantoms are friendly with the outcast guard!
Anyway, we have all taken our cold showers and we can have a nice intleigent debate.
Hey Who re-opened this thread! Dead subject! Don't start beating the downed horse again! All that was needed to be said was! Close now! We don't need to re-light this powder keg!
Nevertheless, its a situation that needs to be adressed. It was prevented from doing so because everyone got wound up. It needs to be dealt with, you cant sweep it under the carpet.
' Wrote:Nevertheless, its a situation that needs to be adressed. It was prevented from doing so because everyone got wound up. It needs to be dealt with, you cant sweep it under the carpet.
I noticed Dab is posting, so I'll hold my pair o' digms for now...
NO NPC'S FOR AW!!!! NONE NEVER! AW NPC's just don't fit.. Should never happen.
As for the AW RP, how about this... Tag stays zoner, as many (including myself) use it as a filler tag so you don't get random tags, a zoner tag says "Scan Me"
SUGGESTED RP CHANGE:
Zoners of Theta needed some extra cash, AW needed a home.. AW Paid zoners to put their NEUTRAL ARMY FOR HIRE, on the Zoner Guard bases.
enough said. There is no need for NPC factions when there is a PERFECTLY good way to RP it.
Actually I am glad that atleast AW is not claiming to be zoners anymore.
Jupiter Guild's (Zoner Mercs quite unlike AW) stance with AW will be neutral. Also technically as a non zoner group, I hope they will not try to run FP9 and the rest of the Theta.
Have you read the whole thread DO? To be honest, those point have been said so many times, and i dont want this getting out of hand so soon after it has been started up.
Its still going on, hence why I said you cant keep it under the carpet.
It needs to be dealt with now; what I dont want to see is a bunch of people saying "OMGod, who unlocked this thread!!!"
I will post my opinion after Dab, following Mal's lead.