The future of mining?

[Shardphoenix]

The community proved it cannot handle the Mining Mod properly.

Community also proved it cannot handle piracy (2milsordai), capships (LOLCAPS), trading (silent-runnini power-trading f1-ers)... Have I forgotten something?

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There is NO problem that can`t be solved by the use of high explosives.

[Knjaz]

Solution after 411 post:

Nerf Mining or Buff trading.

Fixed.

So the preferable solution is to spread lolwuts across Sirius?

Btw, good decision might be altering the sanction consequences - up to 500 and more million fines, based on players actions after he "commited a crime" and also on his reply in Sanctions thread, when he's doing it for the first time, so the... inadequate players get hit hard?).


But if its just about system overpopulation... well, why not make other mining spots giving exactly same amount of credits/hour ?
Im kinda against nerfing, because high incomes allows them to actually spend money not only on new shiny capship, but also such things as escorts, which encourages freelancers and mercs, Bounty Boards. and many other things.


Well, anyway, only admins can have an idea of whats really going on, cause to make the best possible decision one should know the average amount of new players coming to server in fixed period of time, the % of those players staying here, the reasons for them staying or leaving, and % of lolwuts among them. Dont think that even admins have this kind of info.

Community also proved it cannot handle piracy (10milsordie), capships (LOLCAPS), trading (silent-runnini power-trading f1-ers)... Have I forgotten something?

Fixed.

[DarthBindo]

Disco existed before the mining mod, and it will exist even if mining is never turned back on.
But the whole reason the mining mod was added was to make Disco better.
That it did, although there were some balance problems.
Beacuse of the problems people had with lolwuts, and with the mine/trade balance, they complained.
But they also put forth a plethora of ideas on how to fix mining.
[color=#FF9900]My question is, why did the administration team decide to simply get rid of mining, rather than attempt any sort of a fix, with hundreds if not several thousand ways suggested on how to do such?
Getting rid of mining won't improve player behaviour. I frankly can't see how mining is connected to behavior on any sort of fundamental level. A sanction-waiting-to-happen lolwut will be a lolwut regardless of whether he is a lolpirate, lolminer, or loltrader, or lolcap.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[Vito]

not everyone one wants to be a fighter so there goes a 1/4 of players
itll turn into a fighter server only in the end, BORING

anyone heard of the "foxes and rabbits" syndrome,
eg loads rabbits foxes will thrive creating less rabbits so the foxes start to die, less foxes will make the rabbits grow and itll start to tip the scale each way back and forth, server with no rabbits will make the foxes die out.....dead server

people will leave and find another mod with mining

bad admins really bad

traders = rabbits
miners = rabbits on steroids
cash/credits = female rabbits
pirates = foxes
Essex, Hood, Java, etc = big bad bears

Traders are the rabbits my friend. The miners are just some weird rabbits on steroids with socialization problems. Because they are on steroids they force all the regular rabbits to go on steroids too or else they will not get any females. They also have cool cloaking devices and some communication problems.

At the same time the foxes are pissed off by the rabbits on steroids and the big bad bears protecting the rabbits on steroids so they go around and kill every regular rabbit they can find, thus forcing more regular rabbits to go on steroids

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[casero]

@DartBindo: Re-read cannon's first post, it's a trial. This is the attempt to fix it, right now, they must be reading the suggestions, like you said, hundreds if not thousands ways to do it, and they have to discuss about it.

Apparently the mass-miners forgot the concept that good things come with time.

But, maybe, you only think "Time is Gold Ore".

[matskiuk]

for alot of traders moving through just 1 system, can lose anywhere upto 20 mill, and thats just one system, imagine having to go further, more risk, so what are miners/traders now expected to how do you think those traders balance the loss, by trading mined ore

so it is said that miners only mine and sell and have only 1 route (thats what a miner does isnt it?they do whats best to get best results and profit), pirates are there to sit lazy at lanes and demand $, whats the difference

if they dont rp (say hi or anything) so what thats their right, if they cloak isnt that a part of the game, isnt that in way i kind of rp, why do they HAVE to talk/reply, its in the game, so use it, oh dear moany pirate, TOUGH

ok some dont just say "gimme $$$ or die" but as traders/miners all know the outcome in the end is the same no matter what is said in rp (if any is said at all)

yes there are some stupid miners and traders but there are just same amount of stupid pirates, hence thats why the sanctions that appear (good job admins for that part, nice one)

thats the balance of the game, thats the balance between stupid miners and stupid pirates and decent traders and decent pirates, dont ruin the game for cancelling it for the decent folk by stopping a feature thats been built into the game, how can it be given to make away of "life" then to stop it!

the server has gone this far and been this big and kept freelancer going by being WHAT IT IS NOW, why risk ruining that

its been voted best mod/server for how many years, because of the WAY IT IS

so, what is the real problem, cant the problem be fixed in the next update (or is this just a test to see what the players think so the update can be made this way?)

i love this game, i used to be a bf2/aix shootem up nut before i tried multiplayer on FL and found this mod and i thought THIS is what i want to play, now im getting doubts if this is whats gonna happen

dont do this to the loyal players, factions, players clans whatever you call them are for how the game currently is

(ill prob add more ideas feelings later, more i think about it)

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[ryoken]

Wow 43 pages. I got bored after 30ish,as i saw almost no idea's,just the same ole whining. I think if you come up with good idea's for Cannon he will look into them. Right now all i see are mostly complaints,and whining. This is just proving the admins point.

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[Hastings]

Change: Scaring people since 2003.

Guys, this is a temporary solution until the position can be consolidated. Stop overreacting.

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[Evan_]

Right now all i see are mostly complaints,and whining.

So, the player behavior didn't improve yet right? Keep it up, we are on the track. :)

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[ryoken]

It is sad. In 4.84 their was no mining add on. We all survived just fine. I will admit i see alot less use for my Junker Chars,and both my IMG,and BMM miners. But things change,move on. Start trading. Make a pirate hunter,do something usefull.

Hmm that sounds like a new ID. Pirate hunter.

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