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Russian Dog Experiment
Offline jxie93
09-01-2011, 01:11 PM,
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http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.php

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Offline Jihadjoe
09-01-2011, 01:25 PM,
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' Wrote:If the information is correct its from 1940, the cold war was if anything in its beginnings as both of them had other problems at this time.


1940? If that's the case, then it would have been equally proaganda driven.

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Offline Jinx
09-01-2011, 02:21 PM,
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in the middle ages - it was wrong to experiment with dead bodies. - yet - by doing so - scientists learned a lot about human physiology and structure.

a few decades ago - there was a scandal about some company using corpses instead of crash-test-dummy-dolls for experiments that would not have resulted in sufficient data had they used artificial dolls.

while i agree that it might appear wrong to - for example poison animals to death in order to create "the new colour lipgloss of the summer" ... there is still much to be learned - severing the head of a dog is nothing but a showcase. - much worse happens each day for a lot less. ( which doesn t mean that severing a head might be good - but in relation ... certainly not shocking )

what humans do to fellow humans in times of war is worse. there is murdering for nothing - while i guess that such an experiment might ... while maybe not showing purely scientific genius .... probably resulted in a financing of further work.


btw. - there are companies that freeze the heads of dead ppl - who hope to be unfrozen one day to live again.



in general - i think that it is MUCH better to allow such experiments and make everything transparent and watched over - than to have them being conducted in secret, where there is on instituation to watch over it.

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Offline elrica
09-01-2011, 02:27 PM,
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omg, that is horrendous D:
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Offline NOVA-5
09-01-2011, 02:47 PM,
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' Wrote:While this video might be fake, I do know they have attached severed dog's heads to other dogs and seen both of the dogs survive.

Still rather cruel though. Oh wait, that was the X-files right? My bad!

It was Charles Guthrie, these experiments might look insane but if it was'nt for these we wouldnt be
able to save lives like they can today.
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Offline Ipuvaepe
09-01-2011, 07:09 PM,
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' Wrote:
' Wrote:Russian science has different approach on many things then western science and this documentary is not the only one...there are many of them,especially new ones...
Like this one...

BTW,Wikipedia is not relevant source of information cause anyone can post there without any background in facts,Wikipedia is not encyclopedia...
But as my chemistry teacher says, only an idiot with no life and nothing better to do would mess with a science page on Wikipedia then get excited over the resulting mistakes people would make, but a smart person who is actually there for the information could just fix the mistakes.
But I do hope this is fake. I can only imagine what that dog would be thinking if it was real.
Then either your science teacher is mean spirited, talking out their ass, or simply a herpaderp. People with real experience and formal educations make up a near absolute majority of wikipedia editors. Now, this is going by a per-edit basis to separate one time editors from people who have tens of thousands of creditable edits.

Just because it's a publicly editable site doesn't mean it's unreliable. You know what else is publicly influenced? Your thoughts! Cocaine was first banned because of a wives' tale that said cocaine fed to the black slaves (It was used to increase productivity) would make them have red veins pulsing through their skin and rape every white woman they saw.

Every Wikipedia edit is checked by hundreds, if not thousands of knowledgeable people in both their field and WP edit policy. Now, before you go knocking on it, screw off, k? Thanks, you're doing the world a favor.
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Offline SA_Scavenger
09-01-2011, 10:24 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-01-2011, 10:24 PM by SA_Scavenger.)
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' Wrote:But as my chemistry teacher says, only an idiot with no life and nothing better to do would mess with a science page on Wikipedia then get excited over the resulting mistakes people would make, but a smart person who is actually there for the information could just fix the mistakes.
But I do hope this is fake. I can only imagine what that dog would be thinking if it was real.Then either your science teacher is mean spirited, talking out their ass, or simply a herpaderp. People with real experience and formal educations make up a near absolute majority of wikipedia editors. Now, this is going by a per-edit basis to separate one time editors from people who have tens of thousands of creditable edits.

Just because it's a publicly editable site doesn't mean it's unreliable. You know what else is publicly influenced? Your thoughts! Cocaine was first banned because of a wives' tale that said cocaine fed to the black slaves (It was used to increase productivity) would make them have red veins pulsing through their skin and rape every white woman they saw.

Every Wikipedia edit is checked by hundreds, if not thousands of knowledgeable people in both their field and WP edit policy. Now, before you go knocking on it, screw off, k? Thanks, you're doing the world a favor.

Wikipedia is not a peer reviewed source. That doesn't mean that's its factually incorrect but what it does mean is that you use it at your own risk. You cannot back up an argument by using Wikipedia. You will find yourself having to back up Wikipedia by using other "sources." Wikipedia is like a quick referencing point, probably the best part of wiki is all those references down at the bottom. Also, go to a library once in awhile, it's rather interesting to read from books rather than the internet.

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Offline Not Espi
09-01-2011, 10:39 PM,
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' Wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Experime1940.ogv

The full video, I believe. Also interesting thing is if the brain really did survive undamaged after 10 minutes of clinical death.

technically your brain could survive for so much time. it would just be damaged to an extent. i believe the medical term is 'vegetable'. and i cant really tell if that dog is just itching by reflex or is actually awake.

there was a doctor that was making experiments duringthe french revolution. the heads severed under the guillottine were brought to him, he would then shout their owner's names and the faces showed signs of reactions. usually by eyelid/eye motion. might have been the same kind of reflex.

reflexes are primitive signals that do not require too complicated brain functions to actually work. do the math. i doubt the dog would for example recognise it's former owner, for example.
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Offline stardust47
09-02-2011, 05:52 PM,
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I remember reading about something similar in a book called 'Elephants on Acid' by Alex Boese- anyone else read it?- where a dog's head was kept alive after being grafted onto another dog's body. I think there might have been some headless animals, but it's been a while since I read the book.

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Offline Pacific
09-02-2011, 10:57 PM,
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I will have to quote Ray William Johnson's troll

"fake and gay"

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